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Ep 268: Coercive Control: The Pathology of the Abuser with Dr Christine Cocchiola, Part 1

Crime Analyst

Laura Richards

True Crime

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Laura interviews Dr Christine Cocchiola DSW, LCSW, an expert on the experiences of adult and child victims of coercive control and author of the book, Framed. Dr Cocchiola shares top tips to work with and help children and mothers experiencing abuse. Laura zeros in on holding abusers accountable and on the pathology of the abuser whilst highlighting cases including Jennifer Magnano, Jennifer Dulos, Lyle and Erik Menendez, Gabby Petito and Dr Cocchiola explains Rachel Pickrel-Hawkin’s case - a Colorado mother who was jailed for trying to protect her children. You literally could not make this up. Understanding coercive control will save and change lives. Listen to this urgent conversation. For more expert insight, in-depth conversations, extra episodes and videos, live monthly events with Laura and to be a part a fast growing, dynamic and empowering community join the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst #CoerciveControl #Children #JenniferMagnano #JenniferDulos #JennifersLaw #Menendez #GabbyPetito #RachelPickrelHawkins #Escalation #PowerAndControl #DomesticViolence #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #HighRisk #DASH #WarningSigns #Manipulation #Trauma Clip https://youtu.be/7CSvAHANs70?si=bhiGeiV-GNgSQNRD Sources    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/07/michael-hawkins-sex-abuse-child-colorado/ https://msmagazine.com/2024/09/20/colorado-mom-jail-kids-rachel-pickrel-hawkins/ Framed: Women in the Family Court Underworld https://a.co/d/6NHAfDj www.dashriskchecklist.com    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/coercivecontrol    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/stalking https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/books    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/my-two-cents/serial-and-high-risk-stalkers-and-domestic-abusers       REGISTER For Laura’s 2025 Masterclasses – Profiling Behaviour, Preventing Murder and Suicide in Slow Motion, DASH, DASH Train the Trainer, Coercive Control and Stalking: https://bit.ly/LRMasterclassRegistration    More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com    www.thelaurarichards.com       Crime Analyst YouTube, Socials and Website    YouTube @crimeanalyst     Facebook Crime Analyst Podcast    Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999    Threads @crimeanalyst    X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999     TikTok @crimeanalystpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So during all of this, while we were in these shelters and stuff, my mom was, you know, obviously working, you know, she wants to get a divorce, she wanted to get custody.

1:09.0

She found out that Scott was messing with her finances.

1:14.6

He got more than $80,000 out from different like cash advances from credit cards or like

1:20.6

just all this kind of stuff. And I remember my mom just being so defeated and so sad and so stressed,

1:28.3

but she was still on the phone all the time.

1:31.3

They were working with authorities there and had obtained a restraining order against Scott.

1:36.3

Meanwhile, Scott back in Connecticut,

1:38.3

filed for custody of the two youngest children, David and Emily.

1:42.3

The court did give him custody of the two youngest children.

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