Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. This is part two of the two part interview series that

I am doing with Stephen Bancar. So this is the second half of our conversation. Equally

as powerful, if not even more powerful than the first half that I know that you guys are

going to gain a lot of insight out of this. So I hope you enjoy.

I think that it's important to make the distinction as Christians between, for example, working

out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Knowing it has got who works in us. And constantly

obsessing over self discovery and taking, you know, assessment after assessment personality

test, after personality test, looking at our different zodiac science to try to find out

who we really are in the inside. So there are two different ways that we kind of have the

relationship with the self. Like you said, one that I think is Christ centered that is focused

on, you know, our own sanctification through the Holy Spirit, our own relationship with God.

And even the talents that he has given us uniquely, I think all of that is good. And that is

very different. And not just in its methods, but also in the piece that it offers versus the

new age way of doing that are really just the secular world's way of doing that, which is saying

that the road to self discovery is going to be your, your int destination and also it's also

going to give you the peace and fulfillment that you're looking for. And it just won't.

You can know yourself as much as possible. That in and of itself is not going to give you peace.

Do you agree with that? Yeah, I would agree. Unless on your path to knowing yourself, you come to

the realization that you're a fallen human creature and that you need salvation. But that's not where

that path is taking you. That path is trying to pump your tires up and inflate your sense of self,

right? An honest path of self discovery is the path to I'm broken, I'm a sinner, I'm in need of

self-ation. I need someone to help me. I need help versus I'm intrinsically good. You know, I'm a

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