Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Tatecast. I'm Davis-Matic. You guys can find me on Twitter

at Davis-Matic. In this episode of the show, I'm joined by Laura Shin, who is a

prominent crypto-blockchain journalist. She is the host of the very popular unchained podcast,

but most importantly, for our conversation today, she is the author of The Cryptopians.

Idealism, Greed Lies in the making of the first big cryptocurrency craze.

It's essentially a history, a minute-by-minute detailing of the Ethereum blockchain.

It is a fantastic read. There is a link to purchase it in the description of the show, and I would encourage everyone to do that.

I really enjoyed talking to Ms. Shin,

and I think that you guys will enjoy the conversation as well. If you want to support this show,

you can subscribe to bonus episodes on patreon.com slash takecast or just leaving a rating or

review on iTunes or wherever you listen to a podcast. Now let's go ahead and get into the show.

All right, everyone, very pleased, very excited to bring in Laura Shin, author of The Cryptopians, to the show.

It's a book that just came out, The Cryptopians, Idealism, Greed Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Trade.

A link to purchase the book will be in the

description. I know some of you have already purchased it. It's sitting right here next to me

on my desk. And thank you very much for joining the show. I'm really excited to talk about the book.

Thanks for having me. And just one quick note, it's cryptocurrency craze, not trade.

Oh, there we go. Of course, that's my bad, that belies, that belies my, that belies my intentions.

So, of course, we always have to begin. These are, these are some of my favorite stories.

When did you first hear about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency? I mean,

maybe you knew about about Bitcoin or whatever. And I'm behind the times. Who do you remember

your first experience hearing about cryptocurrency in general? I do. And it was kind of funny

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