Jessica and I sat down to talk about several stories from the past week involving religion and politics. — Pastor John Gray, after denouncing “pulpit pimps,” gave his wife a $200,000 car. (0:30) — There’s a financial scam that the Catholic Church says it has nothing to do with. How can anyone tell which one’s the scam? (6:59) — A bishop said women who are sexually assaulted probably did something to deserve it. (10:15) — The Supreme Court’s Trinity Lutheran decision is the basis for two conflicting legal battles. (14:30) –Southern Baptists finally acknowledged their racist past. What about their bigoted present? (23:05) — The Trump administration is cracking down on research that uses fetal tissues even if it could help treat HIV. (29:00) — The child of atheist parents was discriminated against by her school, said a human rights tribunal, but her parents are still jerks. (32:55) — There are sex advice message boards for abstinence-preaching conservative Christians. (42:52) — A new poll finds that atheism isn’t a political liability in certain situations. (47:29) — A Christian author who said atheism and morality didn’t go together was caught having an affair. This is old news (sorry!) but a link about it is here. (53:40) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices