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Ep 245: Helping Kids do the Important Work of Racial Reconciliation with Esau McCaulley

Raising Boys & Girls

That Sounds Fun Network

Parenting, Kids & Family, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Esau McCauley is a professor of New Testament and Public Theology at Wheaton College, as well as the bestselling author of seven books. In this week’s episode, we’re talking about his newest book, How Far to the Promised Land, in which he shares his own story of hope and his family’s legacy. We also dive into his two fantastic children’s books: Andy Johnson and the March for Justice and Josey Johnson’s Hair and the Holy Spirit. Through it all, he shares so much rich truth about what it looks like to advocate for justice and anti-racism as a family. This is a conversation that we believe will both enlighten and inspire you. It sure did both of us! You may also enjoy these episodes. Ep 24: Talking to Kids About Race with Dr. Chinwe Williams Ep 96: Teaching Kids How to Engage with People Who Have Differing Points of View with Carlos Whittaker . . . . . Sign up to receive the monthly newsletter to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Go behind the scenes and watch our podcast on YouTube! Download a copy of the Raising Boys and Girls Feelings Chart. Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at raisingboysandgirls.com. . . . . . If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our Advertise with us form. A special thank you to our sponsors: Needed: Head over to thisisneeded.com and use code RBG for 20% off your first order. Jolie: Jolie will give you your best skin & hair guaranteed. Head to jolieskinco.com/RBG to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. And if you don’t like it— you can return your Jolie for a full refund within 60 days, no questions asked. Our Place: Go to fromourplace.com and enter my code RBG at checkout to receive 10% off sitewide. Our Place offers a 100 day trial with free shipping and returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:58.2

Hey friends, welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls podcast. I'm Sissy Goff. And I'm David Thomas.

1:04.4

And I'm Melissa Trevathan. And we're so glad you've joined us for this conversation. Let's dive in.

1:16.9

Esau McCauley is the Jonathan Blanchard Associate Professor of New Testament and Public Theology at Wheaton College.

1:21.3

He is the author of numerous books, including How Far to the Promise Land,

1:25.4

One Black Family Story of Hope and Survival in the American South,

1:29.7

reading While Black and the children's book, Josie Johnson's hair, and the Holy Spirit, and Andy Johnson in the March for Justice. A contributing opinion

1:35.6

writer for The New York Times, his writings have also appeared in the Atlantic, The Washington Post,

1:41.2

and Christianity Today. You will love this thoughtful conversation with

1:45.9

Issaul Macaulay. And you all, my very favorite part of the conversation was the very end.

1:51.3

So hang in there, listen all the way through, because you're going to want to write this down.

1:55.6

We are so excited to have you on this podcast. We have long admired and respected your work, and we were just

2:02.4

sharing together before we hit record that we were all speaking together in Denver at an event

2:07.9

and didn't get to cross past in that time, and we were so disappointed, but thrilled we're getting

2:12.4

to make up for some lost time being with you today and for folks who aren't familiar with your work.

2:18.3

Would you just start out by talking a little bit about what you do and how you found your way to the work you do?

2:24.6

Oh, man. My kids say that it takes too long to explain to their friends what I do, so I'll got to be free.

2:31.2

I am an associate professor of New Testament at Wheaton College.

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I'm a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times.

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