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Wine for Normal People

Ep 233: Wine and Cheese with Cheese Master Jill Davis

Wine for Normal People

Wine for Normal People

Alcohol, Lifestyle, Arts, Education, Food, Wine, Dining, Grapes

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2018

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Wine and cheese are perfect partners and knowing more about each will help you go from good to great with pairings! Cheese Master Jill Davis of Murray's Cheese tells us all about cheese and we discuss how best to pair certain types of cheese with wine!

Here are the notes:

  • There is an amazing parallel history of fermented stuff -- we discuss the evolution of wine and cheese and how they are so very similar.
  • Jill gives us a primer on how to make cheese. We talk cows, sheep, goats, and buffalo and how seasons, geography, and diet all make a huge difference in how our cheese tastes. Little Miss Muffet gets a nod in this part of the show too (curds -n- whey, anyone?)
  • We discuss the various categories of cheese --fresh, bloomy rind, washed rind and what fits where.
  • We talk about why European cheese is different/better than the cheese available in the US and UK often.
  • While still discussing cheese making and types, we weave in lots of info about pairing.
    • Bloomy rinds and Champagne
    • blue and a great sweet German Auslese
    • medium cheeses like wax Gouda with Beaujolais
    • washed rind or aged cheese with tannic, barrel aged reds.
    • And our favorite adage "what grows together, goes together!"
  • Finally, I offer some commentary on how wine may need to become more like cheese to get rid of the snobbery. It's up for debate, but it's food for thought!

Thanks to Jill Davis for her time and deep knowledge and to our sponsors this week!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Thanks for

0:08.0

downloading Wine for Normal People Radio.

0:10.0

It's the podcast for people who like wine,

0:12.0

but not the snobbery that goes with it.

0:14.0

I'm Elizabeth Schneider, a certified Silmaier and certified specialist of wine.

0:20.0

And I'm MC Ice, just a wine-loving normal person.

0:22.8

MC Ice keep getting the shaft on the podcast.

0:25.6

You're never on anymore.

0:26.7

I know, but it's worth it for this one.

0:29.0

This is so cool because we do eat a lot of cheese.

0:31.4

This is my friend Jill Davis, who actually works inside of a Kroger,

0:36.7

who I've recently found out actually owns Murray's Cheese Shop,

0:39.7

which I think the Beastie Boys actually mentioned in one of their songs.

0:43.7

I'm going to have to research that.

0:45.0

If anybody knows, I might send you a little crash for that.

0:48.5

You knew them from New York.

0:50.2

Murries?

0:51.0

Yeah. For sure, I mentioned it in the podcast, but what I wanted to say is this is a very cool podcast if you are a cheese

0:57.4

eater.

0:58.0

If you don't care anything about cheese, how it's made the different categories, this may not be that interesting

1:06.2

until minute, maybe like 22, 23, and that's when we start to get into the cheese and wine

1:11.8

pairing a lot more.

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