Hey, guys, welcome to not another anxiety show. I'm your host, Kelly Walker, and joining me today is the busy mind psychologist, Dr. Jessica Borshock, who helps people get unstuck

from their busy minds so they can be their best self. Thanks so much for joining us today.

Thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited for this conversation. I know. People are going to love it.

It's going to be very valuable. At least I know it's going to be valuable for me.

It's been valuable for me, trust.

Now, I was hoping, can you, can you start by telling us a little bit about what a busy mind

might look like? Because I imagine it can show up in different costumes that were not

necessarily aware of,

at least I know I wasn't.

Of course. I mean, listen, our minds are sneaky.

And a lot of times we don't know when we're kind of caught up in our head or caught up in

that pattern of just getting sucked down that rabbit hole.

Busy minds, I like to think of it as

if you're having those moments, anytime your mind is being taken out of the present moment,

if you're having a lot of like what if thoughts, like what if this happens? Or you find yourself

reflecting on past experiences, tearing apart those experiences, going over it well past the

point where it's helpful, because that's the important piece. There are times when being in

your head, problem solving, analyzing, planning is super helpful and it's a skill that we want to

have. But then there's a point where it's no longer helpful and it just feeds our anxiety.

We're worrying about something for the 10th time.

When we find ourselves getting really caught up in like shoulds, like, oh, I should do this or I have to do this or what if.

And those are kind of little clues to me that I'm getting sucked

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