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on both your phone and Chromebook. I'm Hemant Tmetta. This is Jessica Blumke and you're listening to the

podcast for friendly atheist.com. We're joined today by Dan Arrell who has written

articles about religion, science, and politics for

websites like Salon, Alternette, and the Huffington Post. His first book

called Parenting Without God was released in August. Dan thanks for joining us

today. Thank you for having me on.

So I'd actually like to kick off. I feel like I've

we've spoken to another author who's written a book about parenting without

God. Why is that, you know, you're talking to two people without kids here.

What is it about being a parent that makes people feel like they need a guide or

non-God guide?

I think a lot of it stems from the society that you're in.

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