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I am on a change. What about you?

So we were going to use a... going to have Zach on again. I guess he kept dropping out

so much on his internet connection. I don't know if it's him or is it us or whatever it is.

This is like you said last time, it's hard when you have to depend on technology for

anything. The biggest problem is, I mean like Culls are guy. He knows how to fix most

anything and make it work. But I'm so bad at it. I mean, I always tell people when they

ask me about the technology, I say, well, I'm one step removed from dad and you know how

bad that is. In terms of... I mean, I'm one step better than dad is, but that's not

saying much. So if somebody's not there, I just don't... If it doesn't just work like

it's supposed to work, then I walk away. I'm like, well, I guess that's all of that.

I keep the more simple things in life.

You do. And as you said, you have to have people around you because to be connected into

the world today, for what we do, because we write books, you know, we do media, we do all

these things to promote because you have to, to let people know you got a podcast, you

got a show. But you have to have somebody that can break it all up, right? I mean, without

that, because if it's up just me and you, it'd be pretty... We'd be thinking, if you didn't

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