So I wasn't going to weigh in originally and normally when I have the instinct just to watch something

It's normally a good thing but I have to weigh in on this conflict that has Gail King and Oprah and Snoop and Kobe Bryant and now so many others really millions of us at the middle of a very tense

tense deep sharp harsh Deep, sharp, harsh.

I guess I'll say conversation, but there's not a lot of dialogue going on here.

People are

afraid.

I want to jump in. I want to unpack and explain what's happened to some of you who don't know.

I'll give you my perspective.

Let's get involved. Let's jump in head first.

This is Sean King and you are listening to

The Breakdown.

The Breakdown. Breakdown. The Breakdown. The breakdown.

The breakdown.

The breakdown. The breakdown.

For most of my adult life, people actually call me and many of you who are listening now are probably going to be surprised, but people called me Pastor Sean.

I was not a figurative pastor, was not a nickname.

I was a Christian pastor from the age of 18 years old until my into my 30s and that's what people knew me as.

That's what people called me and I was a pastor. I was a senior pastor of a church in Atlanta for many years a church that I started.

I was on the staff of several churches as well.

And I was a licensed ordained pastor and planned on being that really for the rest of my life.

And I have walked many people through the process of grief and I've talked about it a little bit here on the breakdown

But I I learned a lot seeing grieving people and seeing them.

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