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My name is Davis-Matic.

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In this episode of the show, I'm joined by Underdog Fantasy's director of communications, Nick Rudman.

You can find him and get in contact with him on Twitter at the Nick Rudman.

So if you have any questions about Underdog Fantasy, about the Underdog Best Ball Championship, anything like that,

but he is definitely the guy to reach out to.

So Nick and I had a conversation about the

transition from draft to underdog, you know, how the website came about, what they're, you know,

how they're currently feeling about the underdog bestball championship, how, you know, the fantasy

sports business during COVID-19, kind of how sports betting legalization has impacted fantasy sports, how it

has impacted bestball and, you know, a lot of these other leagues and businesses.

So I think that you guys will really enjoy this conversation, a look inside of the business

of fantasy sports. If you want bonus episodes of the show, you can find them on

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And now let's go ahead and get into the show.

All right, everyone, welcoming in Nick Rudman from underdog fantasy into the show you guys

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