And so it was like right at dusk and we walked back through the woods, through this field, and we were on the hill.

And we all looked, turned around at the same time, and there before us was this woman.

And she was like, obviously it was only eight, but she was really tall, and kind of transparent, wearing white.

And there was a person, and there was a person, and there was a person, and there was a person.

Out across in the middle of the field, I saw somebody walking, and my whole attention went to this person, because we're inside a base.

There's no one else but the Marines that are training here, and I'm staring, and I see this person walking, I start to make out that it's a lady.

And she is just in white, and I did one of those like no way, and I've seen this.

The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine.

The Smithsonian, and if they found out about large skeletons somewhere, was to go get it.

I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it busts the paradise.

It all goes back to the fallen chair, and the problem with the modern day church, they had a very truncated view of the supernatural.

This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event.

And this guy, defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal.

It'll come through at night, and there's a lot of accounts in these ghost ships.

We're going to try something different this week with our members' only episode.

We're going to throw in some clips from our last interview with Dr. Michael Heizer about ghosts, and give context to some of the members' stories and accounts of seeing these things.

We'll hear on this episode. So yeah, enjoy.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just bizarre.

And so Christians have a hard, I think a lot of Christians get off into the weeds when this sort of stuff starts happening.

They don't, for whatever reason, they don't have any biblical explanation for these things.

What do you take on the trauma lips?

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