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Proof: A True Crime Podcast

Ep. 16 - Crossroads

Proof: A True Crime Podcast

Red Marble Media

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Susan, Jacinda, Kevin, and Dan the cameraman discuss the ups and downs of the case... with outtakes, updates, and what’s next for Proof. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Two Shallow Graves,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @[email protected]. Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:23.0

You're going to Hi and welcome to episode 16 of Proof. To wrap up our first season, to send to Kevin and I, along with Dan the cameraman,

0:25.0

are here to answer some of your questions,

0:27.0

discuss what making this season was like for us,

0:30.0

and fill in some of the things that we learned while investigating

0:32.0

that didn't make it

0:32.9

onto the show. So we're the course of the podcast. We've heard the journey of the

0:56.5

bowlings of Amanda and Michael going from believing that Kane and Lee were guilty to now believing they're not. So that was a really

1:06.2

interesting journey to witness. And Susan, I was wondering for you personally, how have your feelings

1:12.3

about this case changed from when we first started

1:14.8

and to where we are today? It was a few years ago now that I first heard about this case and

1:20.1

from the first time I spoke to Lee, I knew something was wrong with the case.

1:27.0

I didn't have much material to go on for quite a while,

1:31.0

so what I had was mostly the appellate decision from 1999, which

1:38.1

verified a lot of what Lee was telling me. But beyond that, I had things Lee Clark was

1:42.0

explained by this case and going on his word,

1:46.3

I mean it sounded like a messed up situation.

1:48.9

But of course, until you see documents,

1:50.1

you never know what's really going on beneath the surface.

1:53.4

And then as we got more documents in the case

1:55.4

that verified everything we've been telling me,

1:57.5

I was very much certain that at a minimum,

2:01.0

the entire case, the entire fact scenario presented by the prosecution was wrong and quickly can to believe that Lee and Kane were very much innocent in this case

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