The amazing Kate Casey.

Welcome back for another episode of Reality Life with KKC.

Today's episode has a story that feels almost impossible to believe, except it really happened.

It's about love and loss, betrayal and revenge, and how one moment of retaliation can ripple through generations.

My guest is Tamada Trotner, whose memoir, No One Saw Us Leave, is the basis for the new

Netflix series of the same name. Tomata was born into a Jewish-Mexican family in Mexico City in the

1960s, part of a comfortable close-knit community.

From the outside, her life looked idyllic, two loving parents, a privileged home, and the kind of

security that most children take for granted. But beneath the surface, her parents' marriage was

unraveling. When Tamada was just five years old, her father, Leo Saltzman, told her and her brother Isaac

that they were going on a vacation.

Instead, he took them away, kidnapped them across borders, across continents, hiding them

from their mother, Valeria Goldberg. What followed was years of

dislocation and confusion, new names, new homes, new countries, Italy, France, South Africa, Israel,

all part of her father's desperate attempt to erase the life that they had known. Later, Tamada would understand that what

happened to her and to her brother was what she calls vicarious violence. Her father used them as

weapons to wound their mother emotionally, a term that didn't even exist at the time but perfectly

captured the cruelty of what she endured. Eventually, after years of separation and legal battles,

that reached a court in Jerusalem,

the children were reunited with their mother.

Her father disappeared from their lives for two decades,

but the emotional scars, the loss of identity,

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