Yeah, and I think we've we've lucked out in that for the most part, the reaction or response that we've gotten from people, whether it's in real life in public or, you know, even online has been positive, you know, it's been like, yes, we are

spectacle and we just know that like we know that, right? And there is a level of acceptance. I think that you just have to kind of like take it on and be shameless about it and just be like, yep, this is who we are. Like, yeah, we're the family that's pushing two kiddos.

You take one wheelchair and you put a kid in, you like take out another one and put the other kid in. They're like, oh, this like, I mean, we're we're a little bit of like a circus show to watch. Like, I mean, we just we just are a lot, you know, for a lot. We're a lot. So, but we know it and we're just kind of like, whatever it is, what are we going to do? It is what it is.

Low and welcome back to hot marriage. Cool parent. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. We are so happy to have you here. Yes. And we have some exciting guests today, which I'm really pumped about because, you know, doing the podcast, we get to meet a lot of new people and get to know a lot of new people. And this family, the willard since I'm not sure if anybody, if you follow them on Instagram or social media, this family, they're like angels.

They really are. They have three children and they are trying to conceive another and they are going through a slew of fertility issues. And I feel like we are kind of on a similar journey because Shannon, the mom, the wife, she is just doesn't she just knows her heart. Her family is not complete. And I know that for those of you who do feel like your family is complete or you couldn't fathom having many children.

You're just think that us women who want many children are crazy. I get that. I know. But it's like I finally found someone that I can kind of relate with in the sense that I'm blessed and she's blessed to have three beautiful children. And I'm blessed to have two beautiful children. But yet our hearts like ache for more.

And we just know like it's just like this feeling that you know it's like, I don't know. And I don't know if it's because I've suffered a loss that I feel like I'm maybe forever going to try to fill that void. And I don't, I'm like talking to my therapist about it. Okay.

Because I don't know what it is. But in my heart, in my heart of hearts, I just know that there is a child waiting to come to us and that I need to love and take care of and nurture. And that doesn't take away at all from my current to a children. There's like the most annoying thing is when they say, just love the kids you have.

And I'm like, I do. I love them so much. I want another one. Like I, yeah, it's like, do you think I don't? Of course I do. If I didn't, I wouldn't want, I wouldn't want more.

Well, I think a lot of people, they, because like I always thought that I wanted three kids. And I think it could be because I grew up in a house of three kids. I have a younger brother and a younger sister. And you wanted a big family. And you know, you have a big family.

Yeah, I know it's actually funny, though, because Doug, you said you watched married at first sight the other day. And apparently on one of the episodes, I haven't watched our season of married at first sight. I can't, I can't tell you how long it's been. It has been forever.

But apparently on one of the episodes, you said that I said that I didn't want five kids.

Yeah, you said your words were, I don't know. I can't believe I said that.

I don't know who would want that many kids like my God. And it was just funny because now, yeah.

I'm like astonished that I said that because I've always wanted four to six kids and maybe adopt a couple.

Well, the, the Willard Sins are going to be on a little bit later. And they're going to share their fertility journey.

They also share a, they share a common chroma. I don't even know if it's a chromosome, but they share.

Yes, they both share a genetic trait that gets passed down to the kids. There's a one and four chance that it gets passed down to the kids. And it's a very rare disease or.

I mean, genetic genetic disorder, which had been passed down to two of their children.

So two of their girls, they're two youngest girls. They have a son named Jack and then two younger girls. And they're in wheelchairs.

And, you know, they are, they have, they have this genetic chromosomal.

You know, I just think we should have the Willard Sins explain a little bit better.

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