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The Deconstructionists

Ep. 143 - Andre Henry ”All the White Friends I Couldn’t Keep”

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4823 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Guest Info/Bio: Guest Bio: This week I kick off a two-part series on race with Andre Henry. Andre is an award-winning musician, writer, and activist. He is a columnist for Religion New Service and the author of the newsletter “Hope and Hard Pills.” He is a student of nonviolent struggle, having organized protests in Los Angeles, where he lives, and studied under international movement leaders through the Harvard Kennedy School. His work in pursuit of racial justice has been featured in The New Yorker and The Nation and he has a brand new book out, “All the White Friends I Couldn’t Keep: Hope—and Hard Pills to Swallow — About Fighting for Black Lives.” Guest Website/Social Media: www.andrehenry.co Facebook: @theandrehenryTwitter: @andrehenryInstagram: @theandrehenrySoundCloud: https://m.soundcloud.com/andrehenrymusic This week’s episode is brought to you by Better Help online therapy. For 10% off your first month go to www.betterhelp.com/deconstructionists Theme Music by: Forrest Clay “This Water I am Treading & You Must Go” found on the brand new EP, Recover.You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social mediaJoin our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen PfluigT-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamsonSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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And the point of gaslighting is to get the target, excuse me, is to get the target to accept the gaslighter's version of the story, which is exactly what we see, have seen in America, is that America insists, you know, that it is not a, it was not founded as a place where inequality was a part of the design, that it was not founded on

0:24.5

inequality. I tries not to teach its history of imperialism and imperial violence in, you know, the Philippines,

0:32.9

for instance, in Puerto Rico and South America, you know, not to mention the horrors of slavery and how

0:38.7

terrible and just how heinous the system of chattel slavery was in America.

0:47.5

And we're continuing to see these attempts to do that with, you know, Republicans today who tried to say that there was no coup

0:57.8

on January 6, 2021, people trying to ban books or recommending that certain books be burned

1:05.9

because they tell the truth about American history, this hysteria around CRT, critical race theory, and all these

1:15.7

things, you know, are ongoing, you know, instances of a systemic effort to tell us, especially

1:26.4

tell us black people, that we don't really understand our reality,

1:30.6

and we need to just accept the gaslighter's point of view.

1:46.7

Welcome to the deconstructionist podcast.

1:48.2

I'm your host, John Williamson.

1:55.7

And before we get into this week's guest, I just wanted to give you guys a little insight into what's going on in my life right now.

2:01.7

Normally, I wouldn't necessarily do this, but obviously, for those of you who have been steady listeners,

2:08.1

A, I appreciate you and B, obviously there haven't been a ton of new episodes recently. And so I wanted to give you guys a little insight into what's going on and perhaps why that has been

2:13.4

the case. So, you know, I believe that people go through seasons. And right now my season is

2:20.4

complicated and, um, uh, trying, I think is the word I'm looking for. Uh, it's been one of those,

2:31.0

it's been one of those last six month period. So, uh, just a number of things on a personal level have, have, have happened.

2:37.9

And I'm essentially, at least mentally speaking, and perhaps emotionally, just trying to stay afloat at the moment.

2:45.1

So someone's someone very, very, very close to me.

2:49.1

I will respect their privacy. But someone very, very close to me. I will respect their privacy, but someone very, very close to me

2:53.7

in my immediate family has been diagnosed with cancer. And it's one of the situations where

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