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Wine for Normal People

Ep 137: Winemaking Apprentice Ian Renwick Gives the Inside View on French Winemaking

Wine for Normal People

Wine for Normal People

Alcohol, Lifestyle, Arts, Education, Food, Wine, Dining, Grapes

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2015

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

This week we have a complementary podcast to the one we did with Ryan Schmaltz, who did a giant pivot in his career to pursue his winemaking dream. This time we talk to Ian Renwick of Domaine de la Citadelle in the Luberon region of the Rhône Valley. I have "known" Ian virtually for years and have watched his career changes through interactions over email and social media as he moved into wine. Finally, he gives us the whole, fascinating story and then we get into SERIOUS dorkery -- discussing everything from rosé making to the politics of Bordeaux to whether or not ratings matter. Here's a quick outline:

  • First we discuss Ian's life as a corporate HR dude and how he happened upon the WSET and Master of Wine program.
  • Then we talk about Ian's foray into wine importing in Hong Kong
  • We take a side trip to discuss Bordeaux, Southwest France, and the politics of the Bordeaux classification system and the AOP system at large.
  • Ian tells me about how he wound up in Luberon and what he's doing there.
  • The darker commences with tons of info on what Ian learned from his first harvest at the Domaine -- the good, the bad, and the ugly
  • We talk about the Mistral, and what it really feels like
  • We discuss Luberon, Provence, the grapes of the Rhône and the benefits of blending versus using single varieties in wine
  • Then it's all about the business of wine: the balance between commercial success and individuality, our views on whether or not ratings really matter, how wine PR really works and winemaking versus drink making. We also throw in info on rosé winemaking, the characteristics to look for in a great Rhône wine and Ian's work on how rosé could be improved and made better.

A fascinating podcast full of great dork moments and industry stuff, you'll get a lot out of this.

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player go get a buck let's get to the show. Thanks for listening to wine for normal people.

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The podcast for people who want to learn about wine

0:31.0

but can do without the attitude that seems to go with it.

0:35.0

I'm Elizabeth Schneider, a certified Silmaier and certified specialist of wine.

0:40.0

And I'm MC Ice, just a wine-loving normal person.

0:43.0

This is such an exciting day for me because Ian Renick is a podcast listener who I have

0:51.5

feel like I've known you forever, Ian. I mean, I feel like I have feel like I've known you forever, Ian.

0:53.4

I mean, I feel like I have traveled with you to Hong Kong.

0:58.3

We've been together while you were doing some Bordeaux stuff.

1:02.1

But you changed careers a few times.

1:04.3

And we have been sort of friends over Facebook and over email and all this kind of stuff

1:10.4

for I guess years now, which is cool and you have evolved into a great

1:16.0

resource for me and also just a very cool friend and person to bounce ideas off of.

1:22.0

So I am really happy to have you on the podcast today.

1:25.4

Ian's going to talk to us about his transition from the world of corporate HR into wine. But the difference between him and Ryan Schmaltz, who we also did a similar

1:38.1

podcast with, is that Ian is British and Ian is working in Europe.

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