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My name is T.J. Raphael. I'm the host of Liberty Lost, a new podcast about who gets to be a mother and the control of young women hidden behind the veil of faith.

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The amazing Kate Casey.

Welcome back for another episode of Reality Life with Kate Casey, and I can't wait for this episode because I've got Gertie from Real Housewives of Miami.

You know, that's my favorite of all the Real Housewives franchises.

You should go back and listen to my interview with the executive producer Matt Anderson, which was about a week ago.

It gives you way more insight into the making of the show.

And I think what stands out for me about this franchise and certainly in Gertie's story is that you get so much

really rich storytelling in not just the women's singular personal stories but also in their

complicated friendships. So make sure that you start watching that show if you have not done so

already. And then I think that if you have not done so already.

And then I think that if you have been watching Gertie's story, you will find it most compelling.

She is a breast cancer survivor.

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