Ep 1353 | Fake Aliens, False Prophets & Charismatic Cover-Up Culture | Mike Winger

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

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Christianity, News Commentary, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 25.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Allie sits down with Bible teacher Mike Winger to break down the viral “alien disclosure” scandal that rocked Christian circles. A group of charismatic pastors, including Perry Stone, claimed the government held a secret meeting warning religious leaders about impending UFO revelations involving reptilian beings, a fake rapture, and a massive deception that would cause the Great Falling Away — claims that quickly spread across social media before unraveling. Mike explains how the story originated, why it went viral, who was actually in the meeting, and how several pastors walked back their dramatic assertions after pushback and clarifications from Rep. Eric Burlison (R-Mo.). The conversation also dives into the larger issue of cover-up culture in the church, Mike’s work exposing abuse, and deception in ministry. Share the Arrows 2026 is on October 10 in Dallas, Texas! Tickets are on sale now at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠ Share the Arrows is sponsored by: A'del Natural Cosmetics: AdelNaturalCosmetics.com Range Leather: RangeLeather.com/ALLIE We Heart Nutrition: WeHeartNutrition.com Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Timecodes 0:00 Introduction 1:20 The Viral UAP “Disclosure” to Pastors 15:43 Cover-Up in the Charismatic Church 55:31 Combating False Prophets – Today's Sponsors: Hillsdale College | Go right now to ⁠⁠hillsdale.edu/relatable⁠⁠ to enroll. There’s no cost, and it’s easy to get started. We Heart Nutrition | Check out We Heart Nutrition at ⁠⁠⁠WeHeartNutrition.com⁠⁠⁠ and use the code ALLIE for 20% off. A'del | Visit AdelNaturalCosmetics.com and enter promo code ALLIE for 25% off your first-time purchase. Good Ranchers | To support a company that honors America’s past, present, and future, visit ⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠ today. When you start your plan, you’ll get to pick a free meat that will be included in every order for life, and you’ll get $25 off your first order using my exclusive code, ALLIE. Paleovalley | Right now, you can get 15% off your first order at paleovalley.com with code ALLIE. Episodes You May Like: Ep 1190 | Josh Buice & G3’s Slander Scandal https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1190-josh-buice-g3s-slander-scandal/id1359249098?i=1000708650226 Ep 607 | John MacArthur, Hillsong Documentary & SBC Drama | Guest: Megan Basham https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-607-john-macarthur-hillsong-documentary-sbc-drama/id1359249098?i=1000558899144 --- ► Buy Allie's book, "You're Not Enough (and That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": https://alliebethstuckey.com/book ► Subscribe to the podcast: iTunes: https://apple.co/2UVssnP Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2FwkXxj ► Connect with Allie on social media: https://twitter.com/conservmillen https://www.instagram.com/alliebstuckey/ https://facebook.com/allieBlazeTV/ ► Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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0:00.0	Fake alien pastor government meetings, Bethel Church cover-up culture.
0:05.7	Mike Winger is here today on covering it all.
0:09.4	He's got a lot of really troubling information about what is going on in the leadership in the charismatic movement and why we, whether you are charismatic or not, should really care.
0:21.9	We've got all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.
0:34.6	Mike, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
0:37.0	Could you first tell us who you are and what you do?
0:38.8	Oh, well, my name is Mike Winger, and I'm like a Bible teacher guy that went on YouTube
0:44.9	and it just, the stuff kept growing and reaching more people.
0:48.5	And my ministry's also been expanding.
0:50.7	My goal is to help people learn to think biblically about everything, but I tend to take on passion projects. And so I did like a two-year study of the topic of women in
0:59.0	ministry, or I've done everything the Bible says about divorce and remarriage or book studies.
1:04.0	And it's all free content. But I'm also right now in the middle of a series of videos on what
1:10.0	I call cover-up culture inside
1:11.5	of, in particular the Charismatic Church, although it does exist elsewhere, trying to expose
1:15.7	bad guys and the systems that keep them in place.
1:19.6	Can we talk about your most recent video?
1:24.4	This video is about Disclosure.
1:26.2	It's about Perry Stone. Can you tell us who Perry Stone is?
1:31.1	Oh, well, Perry Stone, this is about all the alien stuff, right? Perry Stone made a video
1:36.6	about how he heard about a secret meeting where the government people were informing pastors ahead of these coming disclosures
1:47.0	about aliens and UFOs and UAPs or whatever. And I've had to add UAP to my vocabulary now.
1:53.0	So this was so hyped up by him. It was very misleading. You know, the fact that there's groups of people meeting to talk about their beliefs about aliens or the government, that's not new at all. That's been going on for quite a long time. But the idea that government officials were there and that they were informing these pastors so that the pastors could help the people because the government was about to tell us stuff that was so wild. They're going to confirm lizard beings, lizard-y alien being type things that it went viral.
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