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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1351 | We Need This Wake-Up Call Before the Midterms | Kevin Roberts

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

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Christianity, News Commentary, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.825.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts joins Allie to discuss the current state of conservatism, including the fractures over Israel, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and the growing generational divide on foreign policy. They dive into whether the Right’s dividing line should be America First vs. Israel First, the rise of anti-Semitism on both sides, and what true conservative unity should look like moving forward. Roberts also unpacks Heritage’s major new report on marriage as the foundation of self-government and American resurgence, plus a sneak peek at the American Opportunity Agenda. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on where the conservative movement is headed in Trump’s second term and beyond. Share the Arrows 2026 is on October 10 in Dallas, Texas! Tickets are on sale now at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠ Share the Arrows is sponsored by: A'del Natural Cosmetics: AdelNaturalCosmetics.com Range Leather: RangeLeather.com/ALLIE We Heart Nutrition: WeHeartNutrition.com Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Timecodes 0:00 Introduction 0:57 Fractures on the Right 22:08 Trump 2.0 Review 33:01 The Marriage Crisis 43:20 Kevin’s Leadership Lessons 48:32 The 2026 Midterms – Today's Sponsors: Penny Pangolin | Check them out at https://PennyPangolin.com/allie Seven Weeks Coffee | Experience the best coffee while supporting the pro-life movement with Seven Weeks Coffee; use code ALLIE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sevenweekscoffee.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get up to 25% off your first order, plus your free gift! Good Ranchers | If you go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠ and subscribe to any box of 100% American meat, you’ll save up to $500 a year! Plus, if you use code ALLIE, you’ll get an additional $25 off your first order.   Shopify — Shopify is the commerse platform behind millions of businesses around the world. Get started with your own design studio to turn your big business idea into profit. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠shopify.com/allie⁠⁠ to sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling with Shopify today! Alliance Defending Freedom | For a limited time, every dollar you give to ADF will be doubled — but only while matching funds remain available. Go to https://JOINADF.com/ALLIE or text ALLIE to 83848 to have your gift for life matched.   Episodes You May Like: Ep 1346 | Moms.gov: Trump’s New Website Has One Flaw https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1346-moms-gov-trumps-new-website-has-one-flaw/id1359249098?i=1000767632880 Ep 1125 | God Bless 47! Here’s What’s Next | Guest: Kevin Roberts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1125-god-bless-47-heres-whats-next-guest-kevin-roberts/id1359249098?i=1000684742923 --- ► Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": https://alliebethstuckey.com/book ► Subscribe to the podcast: iTunes: https://apple.co/2UVssnP Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2FwkXxj ► Connect with Allie on Social Media: https://twitter.com/conservmillen https://www.instagram.com/alliebstuckey/ https://facebook.com/allieBlazeTV/ ► Relatable merchandise — use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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0:00.0

After Charlie Kirk was assassinated, the right almost immediately fractured. Now we have all these different factions and it's hard to know what the future is of conservatism. What is the future of America? Do the midterms even matter? Today we've got the president of the Heritage Foundation Kevin Roberts to give us the lay of the land, give us some action steps, and to help us know what's next and how we can get involved.

0:25.9

You're going to love this episode and be so encouraged and educated by it.

0:30.4

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0:37.7

Alley.

0:39.0

Kevin Roberts, thanks so much for joining me. I really appreciate it.

0:49.9

It is a pleasure. You know that all of us at Heritage think the world of you. Thanks for

0:53.8

what you do.

0:54.1

Well, likewise. The feeling is mutual. So I thought there's no better person to ask about the current state of conservatism.

1:00.8

And to me, it is not really a simple question, especially post-Charlie's assassination.

1:07.5

There's just a lot of, I don't know, growing pains, dissensions, fractures going on. So what is

1:13.2

your lay of the land from your vantage point? Lay of the land in sort of two big ways. Number one is

1:20.9

a lot, maybe most of those pain points, fissures, come from the conservative movement growing.

1:30.4

And so one thing that's a silver lining to what is some very frustrating and unseemly commentary, especially online, is that it's

1:36.0

because it's growing. And therefore, and you know, I'm going to look at this as a historian,

1:40.8

when any ideological movement grows, that the proverbial problem of a big tent becomes

1:46.7

really difficult. But the second thing that I would say to tell you something that you and your

1:50.2

audience know well is that this is aggravated by social media. Not everyone on social media,

1:56.9

but the fact that we can fire off something without fully thinking about it then just inflames those tensions.

2:02.9

And so the upshot for me, for us at Heritage, because our ethos is not just to add and multiply to make the movement bigger, but to make it more cohesive, is to try to appeal to those principles, those concepts that cohere almost everyone, we might

2:19.5

have some differences of opinion on how we get there.

2:21.7

For example, Heritage's family policy paper.

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