Ep. 129 - Joseph Jenkins - Biologist, Herpetologist, Alabama Wanderer

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6 • 853 Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

The Bankhead National Forest in Alabama is a place of shadowed canyons and rushing coldwater creeks, crystalline waterfalls and bluff shelters blackened by the smoke from campfires over thousands of years. It’s an island of rare plants and wildlife and old growth trees in a state where coalmining and industrial forestry and now the sprawl of cities have radically altered the landscape. Come with us to Moulton, Alabama, and meet native son Joseph Jenkins, a biologist and herpetologist, hunter and angler, who is working to save two of the most imperiled and least known creatures in the forest: the flattened musk turtle and the Black Warrior waterdog. What is it like to spend one’s life working to save two species that almost no one would miss if they disappeared? What did Aldo Leopold mean when he said, “The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to keep all the parts”? How did the fine chisel of evolution result in these two highly specialized creatures living only here, in this last piece of public lands wild country, in a region facing total transmogrification at the hands of humankind?

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, thanks for being here.
0:02.0	There's just a note, quick note on this podcast
0:05.4	with my friend Joseph Jenkins,
0:07.7	herpetologist and biologists there in Alabama
0:10.4	on the Bankhead National Forest.
0:12.2	Joseph and I were walking down the street in Molden, Alabama
0:14.8	after this podcast was done.
0:17.1	And both of us had the same thought at the same time.
0:20.0	They had missed one of the eight crucial questions, not one of, but a crucial question for this interview.
0:26.7	And so I have taken an unusual step of, we re-recorded that one bit and I'm going to drop it into the podcast.
0:36.0	So you'll notice that during our conversation there, there'll be a glitch in a where I wanted to have Joseph speak on one very important topic.
0:49.8	And so pardon that unusual kind of loss of continuity in our conversation, but we both agreed that
0:58.1	it was important.
0:59.7	So thank you for your patience, and I hope we did it right. Thanks again everybody.
1:05.4	Hey everybody, this is Sal Herring. Backcountry hunters and anglers
1:10.0	podcast and blast. I am still on the Southern Wonder, but I wanted to remind everybody
1:16.3	BHA's 11th annual North American rendezvous. It's gonna be held again this year
1:21.0	May 12th through 14th, 2022, Missoula, Montana. You need to come out, if you can.
1:31.1	It was a big time last year, man. can't
1:35.0	explain to you what it's like to have a tribal gathering of that sort and that size
1:41.0	it kind of blew my mind.
1:42.7	So I hope y'all will come in.
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