Ep 1251 | ‘Doesn't Give Martyr’: A Response to Jackie Hill Perry’s Charlie Kirk Comments

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

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News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

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🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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We address Jackie Hill Perry’s dismissal of Charlie Kirk as a martyr, defining true martyrdom through Scripture’s lens. We contrast Kirk’s gospel-driven legacy with the chaos following George Floyd’s death. Plus, we refute Pope Leo XIV’s claim that the death penalty isn’t pro-life, upholding biblical justice. Tune in to reject worldly narratives and embrace God’s truth with unwavering courage. Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for tickets now! Sponsored by: ⁠Carly Jean Los Angeles⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Good Ranchers⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.goodranchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠EveryLife⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.everylife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (03:20) Response to Jackie Hill Perry (05:45) Biblical Martyrdom (21:10) George Floyd vs. Charlie Kirk (39:00) The Pope's View of the Death Penalty --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and subscribe to any of their boxes (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) to get free Waygu burgers, hot dogs, bacon, or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use code ALLIE at checkout. Jase Medical — Go to ⁠⁠⁠Jase.com⁠⁠⁠ and enter code “ALLIE” at checkout for a discount on your order. Cozy Earth - Go to CozyEarth.com/RELATABLE and use code “RELATABLE” for up to 40%! Pre-Born — Will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to ⁠Preborn.com/ALLIE⁠. Fellowship Home Loans — Fellowship Home Loans is a mortgage lending company that offers home financing solutions while integrating Christian values such as honesty, integrity, and stewardship. Go to ⁠⁠https://fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie⁠⁠ to get up to $500 credit towards closing costs when you finance with Fellowship Home Loans. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 1241 | The 'Charlie Effect' Spreads Across the Country https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000726956449 Ep 1242 | Christians, Rise Up. This Is the Moment https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000727243516 Ep 1248 | Politics and Christianity: Was Charlie Kirk Right? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000729570047 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://alliebethstuckey.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Was Charlie Kirk truly a martyr? Some Christians think he wasn't, and in fact, they believe that
0:06.6	his words weren't giving martyr. We'll respond to that today and look at what the Bible says.
0:13.8	Also, Pope Leo has some choice words about those who are pro-death penalty while also being pro-life. Surprise, surprise. I also have some choice
0:23.1	words for the Pope. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to
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0:46.7	Hey. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
0:54.1	Okay, many of you sent me a clip from a podcast called With the Perrys, and this is Jackie Hill Perry. She is a Christian author.
0:57.0	She wrote a book called Gay Girl, Good God. It's a really incredible book. She's got an
1:02.0	amazing testimony. I've talked many times about the differences in political opinion and theology
1:08.8	that we have. We probably agree on a ton of stuff. And yet in 2020,
1:13.7	our differences were highlighted, at least to me, when it comes to race and social and so-called
1:20.3	racial justice. And unfortunately, she blocked me on social media. I'd never even talk to her
1:26.9	directly or talked
1:27.8	badly about her, but have talked about our differences and disagreements. And so when many of you
1:33.4	sent me this clip about Charlie Kirk and about what some people call Christian nationalism
1:39.8	and wanted me to respond, I'm happy to do so. I'm not trying to aggravate the
1:47.3	differences that we already have or any like anger that may already be there. Like I don't feel
1:55.7	angry, but I continue to disagree with her perspective and the way she approaches topics like this.
2:02.4	But I also wasn't necessarily surprised about how this conversation went down.
2:07.5	Their episode was titled, Neither Blue nor Red, being a disciple in a culture war.
2:13.0	And they were talking about Charlie's death.
2:15.6	And I just want to say, like, this is a clip that they posted on social media. This is not me extracting something, intentionally decontextualizing
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