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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1246 | Unbiblical Churches: A Pastor’s List of Red Flags | Todd Wagner

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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In this uplifting episode of “Relatable,” Allie sits down with Pastor Todd Wagner, the founder of Watermark Church and the 1613 Project. Pastor Todd explains that Christians need to mirror Charlie Kirk’s commitment to the gospel through his work ethic. The pastor also gives his list of red flags for any church that isn’t properly leading its congregation in the way of Christ.    Check Out More from Todd: 1613 Project   Unhindered Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to ⁠⁠http://sharethearrows.com⁠⁠ for tickets now! Sponsored by: ⁠Carly Jean Los Angeles⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Good Ranchers⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.goodranchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠EveryLife⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.everylife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://www.toxicempathy.com/ --- Timecodes: 3:11 - Revival After Charlie Kirk's Death10:38 - Unbiblical Churches20:21 - Life is a Mission28:39 - Red Flags to Leave Your Church40:57 - Using Your God Given Gifts49:09 - Christian Parenting --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://goodranchers.com⁠ and subscribe to any of their boxes (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) to get free Waygu burgers, hot dogs, bacon, or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use code ALLIE at checkout. Pre-Born — Will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to ⁠https://preborn.com/allie⁠. Carly Jean Los Angeles — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use code ALLIEB to get 20% off your first CJLA order, site wide (one-time use only) and start filling your closet with timeless staple pieces. And see Allie's CJLA favorites at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠carlyjeanlosangeles.com/pages/allieb⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shopify — Shopify is the commerse platform behind millions of businesses around the world. Get started with your own design studio to turn your big business idea into profit. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠⁠shopify.com/allie⁠ to sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling with Shopify today! Constitution Wealth Management — Let's discover what faithful stewardship looks like in your life. Visit Constitutionwealth.com/Allie for a free consultation. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 687 | When God Tells You to Sell Meat, You Listen | Guests: Ben & Corley Spell (Good Ranchers) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-687-when-god-tells-you-to-sell-meat-you-listen-guests/id1359249098?i=1000581068327 Ep 804 | My Mom on Mothering Toddlers, Teens & Adults | Guest: Lisa Simmons https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-804-my-mom-on-mothering-toddlers-teens-adults-guest/id1359249098?i=1000612674542 Ep 912 | How Small Farms Are Saving America | Guest: John Klar https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-912-how-small-farms-are-saving-america-guest-john-klar/id1359249098?i=1000636697925 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://alliebethstuckey.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Before today's episode, I want to take a second to tell you about fellowship home loans. You've

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probably heard there's a standoff right now between Trump and the Federal Reserve. Trump is

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pushing hard to bring interest rates down and get the economy moving, but Jerome Powell's holding firm

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for now because inflation's still hanging around. That means that rates could drop at any

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moment. And when they do, the prepared people out there will hanging around. That means that rates could drop at any moment.

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And when they do, the prepared people out there will move fast.

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home loans, mortgage lending by the book, nationwide mortgage bankers DBA Fellowship Home Loans,

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Equal Housing Lender, NMLS, number 819382. Todd Wagner is a former pastor in author.

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He founded a very large and influential church in Dallas, and now he runs a couple

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ministries.

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One of them is the 1613 project, and he is equipping pastors and believers to not only

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be sober-minded, but match their faith with action.

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And gosh, this episode is jam-packed

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with wisdom. Wisdom for how to know if you are in a biblical church, why to leave your church,

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how to bring concerns to your pastor in a way that is actually effective. And he has a word for

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