Hello and welcome to Something's Off with Andrew Heaton. I'm your host Andrew

Heaton and if you put me in regular wash I will ruin all your white shirts you need to

wash and dry me separately it's on the label. We keep getting told that the big division in

American politics is between conservatives and progressives. That's not true. The

real division in America isn't between Red Team and Blue Team.

It's between people who use all caps on Twitter and everyone else.

And today we're going to talk about one such group of all caps yellers,

and I'm not really sure what to call it, maybe my guest will help me. about one such group of all caps yellers.

And I'm not really sure what to call it.

Maybe my guest will help me out.

Left-wing authoritarianism, the regressive left,

whatever we call it.

The distinguishing characteristic is an almost Spanish Inquisition-like impulse

to root out and destroy heresy, but not a fun Spanish Inquisition like from Monte Python Python, a very not fun Spanish Inquisition like

from the Spanish Inquisition.

And that's interesting because traditional liberalism, and for that matter most of my mainstream

liberal friends are fairly committed to pluralism.

pluralism is the idea that we want to have a society where we have lots of

different pockets of opinions and cultures and religions and whatnot. We don't all have to be on the same page.

You can have Lutherans and baratones, no problem.

But I don't think pluralism comes naturally to us. I think our default state is probably to have a strong man ruler and live in

small clumps of homogenous cavemen. Pluralism takes effort to maintain. I grew up with a lot of conservatives in Oklahoma who

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