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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1238 | Homeschooling: LGBTQ Activists’ Latest Conquest | Robert Bortins

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Today, Robert Bortins, CEO of Classical Conversations, reveals how Marxism and communism fuel public education and now threaten homeschooling with woke ideologies. We unpack the truth about school choice and how secularism undermines Christianity, particularly God's design for family and education. Plus, we discuss the concept of social-emotional learning and the consequential impact of technology in the classroom. Join us to champion biblical education and protect our children’s hearts and minds. Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for tickets now! Sponsored by: ⁠Carly Jean Los Angeles⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Good Ranchers⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.goodranchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠EveryLife⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.everylife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://a.co/d/4COtBxy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about Classical Conversations here: https://classicalconversations.com --- Timecodes: (00:50) Introduction & Classical Conversations (02:30) Wokeness Intruding Homeschool Curriculums (10:50) The History of Schooling Options (26:20) Social-Emotional Learning (39:00) Psychological Impact of Public Schools (45:30) Technology in the Classroom (48:30) Unpacking School Choice --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and subscribe to any of their boxes (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) to get free Waygu burgers, hot dogs, bacon, or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use code ALLIE at checkout. We Heart Nutrition — Get 20% off women's vitamins with We Heart Nutrition, and get your first bottle of their new supplement, Wholesome Balance; use code ALLIE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.WeHeartNutrition.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. CrowdHealth — get your first 3 months for just $99/month. Use promo code 'ALLIE' when you sign up at JoinCrowdHealth.com. Patriot Mobile — go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' for a free month of service! Fellowship Home Loans — Fellowship Home Loans is a mortgage lending company that offers home financing solutions while integrating Christian values such as honesty, integrity, and stewardship. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get up to $500 credit towards closing costs when you finance with Fellowship Home Loans. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 343 | Equipping Yourself to Homeschool | Guest: Leigh Bortins https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-343-equipping-yourself-to-homeschool-guest-leigh/id1359249098?i=1000503676634 Ep 963 | The Dangers of Gentle Parenting, SEL & Empathy | Guest: Abigail Shrier https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-963-the-dangers-of-gentle-parenting-sel-empathy/id1359249098?i=1000648254377 Ep 1123 | Why Boys Are Failing Kindergarten | Guest: Dr. Leonard Sax https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1123-why-boys-are-failing-kindergarten-guest-dr/id1359249098?i=1000684140603 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://alliebethstuckey.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Is wokeness weaving itself into homeschool curriculum? Also, what's the truth about school

0:07.1

choice? It's not only progressives who are against it. And why are private Christian schools

0:14.1

allowing their kindergartners to use iPads in the classroom and at home? We are analyzing all of this and more on today's episode

0:24.4

of Relatable. We are joined by Robert Bortons, who is the CEO of Classical Conversations. This

0:30.9

episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use Code

0:35.1

Alley at checkout for a discount. That's good ranchers.com code Alley.

0:52.2

Robert, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

0:53.1

Can you tell us who you are and what you do?

0:54.1

Well, thanks for having me, Ali. And, yeah, I was homeschooled through high school, got an

0:58.1

industrial engineering degree from Clemson University, worked at a couple Fortune 50 companies

1:03.0

before coming home to work with my mom, Lee, who I know she's been on the show before and

1:07.9

help her run our homeschooling company called Classical Conversations.

1:12.3

Yeah. Tell us about classical conversations. Yes. There's a lot of, I've realized,

1:17.4

there's a lot of homeschool curriculums out there. So what is different about classical conversations?

1:22.8

Yeah. So classical conversations was fundamentally different from the start, where it was created by

1:27.8

homeschool moms, for homeschool moms, using the classical method. It started in 1997 in our

1:34.6

family's basement, and it really revolves around community. So once a week, students are getting

1:40.1

together with a trained parent tutor and going over the curriculum together in a group.

1:46.0

And it's based on a Christian worldview and unapologetically so. And we really believe that

1:50.7

God created the world. So everything is reflective of his nature. And so we don't necessarily

1:56.8

have a separate Bible class. We think, you know, churches and families are taking care of that.

2:01.3

But we believe two plus two equals four reflects God's nature, that history reflects his timeline

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