You're listening to reading glasses, a show about book culture and

literary life designed to help you read better. I'm author, filmmaker, and

book devour, Mallory O'Mara, and I'm Brea Grant, filmmaker and

interviewing author Clay McLeod Chapman.

But first what are you reading Bria?

I am reading a book, it's a couple years

old called Senlin Ascends by Josiah Bancroft. I have never heard of this. I'm about, a little

over halfway through this book, it is so addicting. It is about a man, his name is

Thomas Sendland, I believe his name is Thomas, and he goes by Sendlin and

him and his wife decide to go to the Tower of Babel. Do you know what that is?

Tower of Babel. It's the Bible thing. Yeah so in the Bible, this is like it's based on this

but it's like a very loosely based on the thing from the Bible

which is from the Bible right am I crazy Sean?

Terrell where like if they built this tower they went all the way up to like the

heavens or something and

everyone spoke the same like the same language and then...

I only know about this because of the babblefish from Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, and how I know about Bible things. I can't remember

what haven't. I think God got mad and smited them somehow and made them speak

different languages in the tower fell or something. I don't really remember.

Whatever. It's a very tall tower that goes up into the sky, it's all you need to know. And people live on it. And like, I'm not talking like, like within, and so essentially in this book, each level is a different city, and they're all placed on top of each other.

So you go in the first level and then you walk around that city and then you can go up to the second level

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