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Okay first thing Chris Clas be on a thank you ahead of time here before we even start like to thank you for coming

on the show to talk to us about some things that magic probably like difficult talk about at times

Yeah no I'm happy to be here and real grateful for you guys to create an opportunity to I think build public awareness around what's important to me and a lot of other people

Yeah I'm kind of struggling in a way that I usually don't to begin like where to start right like I want to ask you like what adaptive hunting or adaptive fishing like what that means but I also want to talk about your personal story of how you came you know to be in a situation you need to become aware of what those things are yourself

What like what what feels more natural to you either way maybe first defining what is adaptive hunting fishing any kind of adaptive recreation yeah let's do that

So I would say you know it's just it's just a person who has a need because they have a particular limitation whether that's physical or whatever they they have a need to find a way to be able to pursue the things that they enjoy

And for me that means hunting fishing camping and stuff like that and so you know like we we kind of have always said that well there's two terms one is adaptive equipment and then that applies to adaptive hunting fishing etc.

And then there's a system technology which is kind of the broader field of you know the kind of equipment that ranges from communication devices to recreational equipment computer access equipment home daily living modifications and equipment and we've kind of always said that assistive technology can range from

a piece of duct tape or bailing line talk wire to a very very high-tech communication device that helps someone with no verbal skills be able to communicate through the computer using their eyeballs and a tracking system so obviously there's quite a range of

technologies and I guess the other important thing is whatever you're talking about it's not the actual device or piece of equipment that defines it as adaptive equipment or assistive technology but rather the way it's used so you know piece of duct tape is a piece of duct tape but if somebody doesn't have the ability to hold a TV remote

for example maybe a piece of duct tape sticks it to a coffee table so it won't slide away from them and that becomes an adaptive technology yes yeah

in okay now can you explain your own personal limitations to us just so the list is I want to walk people through kind of your personal journey and sort of your background in the out of doors okay that you that you came up against what I would

presume to have seemed like an insurmountable wall in pursuing the activities that you love and then your journey to find a way over or through or under that wall right right

okay so well first of all my quadriplegic high level quadriplegic you know and they based on the number of vertebrae they give it a give it a denotation I'm I'm a C34 quad

with them it means my nerve injury if my spinal cord injury occurred at the level of the third to fourth vertebrae down from the base of my school okay

and so at that level of injury you know it can affect a person's diaphragm you know making them

ventilator dependent fortunately I can breathe I have a quiet voice but I can breathe independently and then I have no sensation or motor function below that level so I

can't feel your clavicles correct it's about there I I would say my clavicles are there's impaired sensation I might be able to you know if somebody

rubs on it I would probably know that something's happening but I'm not normally feeling it that makes sense no it does it's

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