The Tom Woods Show, episode 1150.

Prepare to set fire to the index card of allowable opinion.

Your daily dose of liberty education starts here, the Tom Woods Show.

Folks make plans to join Bob Murphy and me on the Contra Cruise this year.

It's the third one we've done. And the testimonials have been

unanimous. It is the libertarian event of the year. Wonderful folks, tons of fun and unforgettable

experience. Head over to ContraCruise.com and sign up now. Hi everybody, Tom Woods here. I've got the

carpeting in now here in the office, which should absorb some of that

echo I was getting from this new office that I'm operating in. So the recording you're about to

hear, nevertheless, though, is from when I didn't have the carpeting, just from the other day,

because I just got the carpeting install today. So it'll sound a little bit different from the audio

you're hearing right now. That's just for all you

audio files who care about things like this. Let's focus on what all you normal people care about,

which is the subject of our debate today. I have two gentlemen today who have joined us to talk about

Russiagate and talk about whether there may be something there or whether it's something to be altogether dismissed.

And arguing that there appear to be genuine grounds for concern at the very least is David Packman,

who is the host of the David Packman Show.

And you can listen to him and find out more about him at David Pakman.com.

That's P-A-K-M-A-N. And on the other side is Ray McGovern, formerly of the CIA for many years.

And in the 1980s, he prepared the president's daily brief. And you can find out more about Ray at

at Ray MacGogvern.com.

So now what I'm going to do is I'm going to transition into the recording I did with these

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