Welcome to the Vortex Nation podcast brought to you by lovers of hunting, shooting, public lands, the Second Amendment and good food. All right everybody we're on take to hear the intro.

Take one somehow ended up in people thinking I was pregnant.

So take two.

I'm gonna admit to you guys something.

We've got a lot of requests that come in quite frequently

for episode topics.

And a lot of the ones have come in, people asking about what kind, you know, talking about apparel in the field specifically and mostly hunting related. So talking about what kind of gear we prefer most out there when we're hunting, you know, camos,

materials, all that kind of stuff.

And we've been kind of kicking this one around for a little bit.

We want to try and do it in a tactful way of course this is this is one of those times where

you realize the podcast you listen to is also sort of associated with a brand.

We don't want to accidentally pooh-hoo or whatever any one particular friend exactly we don't want to play favorites when we have a lot of different

Relationships with a number of these different companies that make various different hunting clothing many of which we like so anyway We're we're going to try and do it as tactfully as possible.

One of the things we thought we could talk about here,

and across the table from Mark and I,

is Paul Nees, the Nees, also known as, and Eric Barber,

glad to be back.

The Barber, the barber, now known as.

And we figured we could discuss camouflage,

camouflage patterns, and I don't know what all goes into them and everybody's experience here.

We've got, you know, Paul having a ton of experience out west along with Mark,

Eric having a ton of experience in the Midwest, me just having eaten two

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