Ep. 109: Why We Have to Have a Conversation About Suicide (with Joe Dennis)
Your Anxiety Toolkit - Anxiety & OCD Strategies for Everyday
Kimberley Quinlan, LMFT | Anxiety & OCD Specialist
4.9 • 802 Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2019
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
This episode of Your Anxiety Toolkit was not an easy one to record. No one likes to have a conversation about suicide, but we need to. We need to have a conversation about suicide more than ever and we need to keep having these conversations until we break the stigma of suicide.
Recently, one of our dear CBT School members died by suicide and our community was heartbroken. My heart was broken. Even as a therapist, I cannot prepare myself enough for the conversation about suicide.
Thankfully, as we all grieve this sad loss, we are joined today by Joe Dennis to help us work through this difficult topic. Joe Dennis is the Clinical Director of Mindful Counseling in Utah with such a wonderful kind heart. In a flash, Joe agreed to join me for a conversation about suicide where he educated us about suicide and gave us some wonderful tools and resources for those who are struggling with thoughts of suicide. We also discussed tools and resources for those with a loved one who has died by suicide.
Joe talked with us about why we now call it “Death by suicide” and the reasons for this terminology change.
Joe also talked about the difference between passive suicidal ideation and active suicidal ideation and how to differentiate between the two. Joe and I talked about why we struggle to talk about Suicide and how Depression, anxiety, trauma, etc. play into suicidal ideation.
Lastly, Joe talked about what is going through the mind of someone who is contemplating suicide and what tools/strategies/resources they can use when they are faced with this difficult time.
I really hope that this podcast helps you to understand and approach suicide in a way that is less stigmatized, less shamed and less frightening.
Thank you, Joe Dennis, for being on the show.
For more information on Joe, visit:
Instagram: @joedennis.counsels
Website: https://mindfulcounselingutah.com
For more information on suicide awareness and prevention, visit or call:
National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 1800-273-8255
Crisis Text line: 741741
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| 0:00.0 | This is Your Anxiety Toolkit, Episode 109. |
| 0:09.7 | Welcome to Your Anxiety Toolkit. |
| 0:12.3 | I'm your host, Kimberly Quinlan. |
| 0:14.5 | This podcast is fueled by three main goals. |
| 0:17.4 | The first goal is to provide you with some extra tools to help you manage your anxiety. |
| 0:23.0 | Second goal, to inspire you. Anxiety doesn't get to decide how you live your life. And number three, |
| 0:29.6 | and I leave the best for last, is to provide you with one big, fat virtual hug, because experiencing |
| 0:37.0 | anxiety ain't easy. |
| 0:38.8 | If that sounds good to you, let's go. |
| 0:46.1 | Today, we are going to start with the I Did a Hard Thing segment. |
| 0:52.6 | This one I particularly loved because of its depth and, you know, it's just such a |
| 0:58.8 | beautiful, beautiful story. So here I'm going to read it to you. It says, I want you to know that I'm |
| 1:04.9 | doing hard things. One in particular was last week. My husband and I were doing yard work. |
| 1:12.1 | I was happily leaving the house to purchase some flowers. |
| 1:16.7 | By the way, I have Homo CD. |
| 1:19.7 | As I was leaving, my husband said that while I'm gone, |
| 1:22.7 | he will trim the branches off the pear tree with a tool. |
| 1:26.9 | Just by him saying the tool, I pictured the sore in my mind. |
| 1:33.4 | He did not even say sore. I got angry with him and I got scared. My husband wanted to talk me |
| 1:40.8 | through my upset, but I did not want to talk at the time. I did not want to shop |
| 1:45.7 | for flowers. And I sat and I thought, what can I deal? How am I going to move forward? I need to lean into |
| 1:52.8 | the fear. So I asked Don, my husband, to get the sore in which I always avoided. We walked out to the pear tree and I decided I needed to see |
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