I am unashamed. What about you?

Welcome back to Unashame.

Chase, we were, last podcast, we've been diving into these first disciples who were called,

and you had a point about light, because I was talking about this idea of,

that enlightenment, like that Paul was enlightened on the road to Damascus.

There seemed to be this idea that this come and see is like somehow there has to be an illumination to,

I don't know if it's the mind, the heart, what it is that gets illuminated.

It's like, just spend some time with me, Jesus says, and you'll follow me.

It's like the light switch comes on.

That's it.

And he uses this illustration multiple times when he talks about being blind and seeing.

The story I always think about, I know I've shared it before,

but because, you know, our dad, he was in the duck hunting world,

he was real big about if somebody ever, usually outside of our family,

would say, come to this duck hole and, you know, we'll get them.

Well, if we didn't get them, my dad, he was like, never follow that human being ever again.

And you remember, W.E. got into that category.

He had a couple of strikeouts, you know, come up here.

And I then learned after a while, I was like, if you get this wrong, you will be excluded

from any future venture ever.

Especially the first time. You can have a strike out later

but not to start with so in a famous story that happened is one year the river was up it was up so high

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