Yes, yes, welcome in to another edition of the Tim

McKernan show on the Inside STL podcast network. I am your host,

Tim McKernan and we are in the Home Loan Expert.com studios with this

week's guests presented by Mark Hanna of Evergreen Wealth Strategies,

KMOV anchor Courtney Bryant and Courtney falls under the umbrella of when we started the podcast at this point

approaching a year ago one of the people that I wanted to make sure I had on the show and the reason is because I would tell you as I tell

Courtney over the course of our conversation that if I had to if all of our guests on the show were stocks so to speak which of course is

incredibly dehumanizing to all of these people who've been kind enough to come

on the show but I'm trying to make an analogy

and perhaps I'm doing it incredibly poorly, as would be par for the course.

But if everybody was a stock, I would buy up as much Courtney Bryant stock as I possibly could because unless my

intuition for gauging talent in the broadcasting industry is way off the mark Courtney Bryant is going to be a

superstar in this business and this is this is saying something coming for me

not of course because of anything that I have to do with it but in the sense that I left television the very station Courtney works at now, 13 years ago at this point, which is really weird to think about because I feel like it was a huge part of my life, but it was only

five years, and it's been 13 years since I was there and I left television, television news

specifically because I'm like yeah it's going nowhere and you know a

handful of people will make money but the rest of us have no leverage in negotiations

because if we say well we need a you know 15% raise they'll look at us like we're

crazy and then they can go and hire one of the 200 other people who would die to move up to St. Louis because they're working in a smaller market and they think that that is going to be the way to get them on the fast track to, you know LA or a network, and so they're willing to do whatever

and then taking less money than you would be willing to take.

So the point is, we rarely have leverage in television news I actually feel like you have more

leverage in radio because you can quantify the advertising dollars that each show or

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