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mean? Do you know jazz? You know you just do it. Do it, what, what, what, what, what, what,

what. I don't think you need to stop that, you're not very good. Poor scat. I can't scat.

And I can't rap, and I can't sing a musically bereft of talent. Yes, I think you could have

the talents I feel. I've got other talents. Yes. I'm more cheerful, Judith. That's

one of my talents. I can hear. I can hear. Well, I've been after last time. God, you were

down in the dumps last time. Where are you now? Go on. Last week I was just a mere five.

I've bounced back and I think I'm a seven point five. I think I might be a bit annoying today.

I might be so cheerful, but in the end you might want to pour cold water on me. Yes, I'm

already thinking it might be a little like that. You prefer it when I'm slightly off my perch.

I'm not. I think as you're being so bouncy, like a little ticker. It's not like me. It's

though. But you're a bit like my sister. All my, my friendships work like this is all my friends.

And I think it works for all women all the time. Is we actually like it when our friends are

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