journey on

so yeah plenty of innovation going on

and where do you come up with your ideas for these

are these things like that are suggested or do you sit down and brainstorm them

or do things emerge out of experiences you've had

I spend a lot of time sitting on the toilet looking at Google Jeremy

who doesn't

but some of us don't come up with races he's probably there right now lot of time sitting on the toilet looking at Google, Jeremy. Who doesn't? Who doesn't?

But some of us don't come up with races.

He's probably there right now.

He haven't got a camera.

Although I do believe that you have a very similar reason.

The way that you come up with races works like that, David.

It's normally when I'm drunk, I write something down and whatever I

think that means in the morning.

Yeah, we have a, you know, we have a kind of a team approach to it.

You know, someone brings an idea to the table.

We discuss it.

We look at it on various merits and decide whether it's worth working up.

And there's a small group of people that we've worked with over the years who you know really good at going out there and scratching the surface

of a location yeah and see the route will actually stack up so it kind of starts with that sort

of blue skies I wonder what if we did this you know the Hagerans Wall concept as a case in point

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