Hello and welcome to Adam Ruins Everything the podcast I am your host Adam Conover. Here's what the podcast is for my

first-time listeners. I do a TV show on true TV. It's an educational comedy

show called Adam Ruins Everything and on that show I talked to fascinating guests

experts in fields from across the realm of human knowledge but on the show I

only get to talk to him for a couple minutes on the podcast I bring him into the

studio and we talked to them at length

about all the fascinating topics and ideas that they have to offer us.

We bring their awesome but academic and maybe sometimes kind of dry and difficult to access work to you in a

light fun podcast setting at least that's what we attempt to do and at the very least I

get to satisfy my curiosity about all of the incredible work that they do.

And by the way in case you are wondering and I know a lot of people are,

Adam Ruins Everything is coming back to True TV starting August 23rd.

We have 14 big episodes coming at you all through the rest of the year and you can also find clips and full episodes at true TV.com

slash Adam ruins everything and the watch true TV app. But what are we doing today? Today's guest is Professor Donald Schoop, who appeared on the Cars episode of the show.

Donald is a distinguished research professor in the Department of Urban Planning at UCLA,

but more importantly he is well known as America's

foremost parking guru.

Now you might be saying to yourself parking guru, that sounds like a boarding thing to be, but in fact, and take my word for it, it is fascinating.

Donald Work revolutionized the field of parking research, again, a real field that he in fact revolutionized.

This guy is a, this guy is renowned in the world of urban planning,

urban development.

The people who are designing our cities to look the way that they're going to look

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