Ep. 068: Cazenovia, Wisconsin. Steven Rinella talks with the outdoor writer Pat Durkin, "Buckman" Doug Duren, and Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

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Sports, Wilderness

4.9 • 37.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2017

⏱️ 140 minutes

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Subjects Discussed: Are coyotes and wolves really killing all the deer?; habitat as the driving factor for deer populations; is Doug part of the problem or part of the solution?; dirty farming vs. clean farming; newspapers and the death of outdoor columnists; the pen is mightier than the fire hydrant; resident locksmiths on naval vessels; fatherly advice; Deer and Deer Hunting magazine; why you should hunt whenever the Green Bay Packers are playing; expert hunters who can't tell one tree from another; deer make people stupid; the viciousness of deer politics; the scholarly consensus; the most insulting article someone could write if his aim was to piss off deer hunters; blaze pink; the relative merits of various midwesterners; buck movements during the rut; shirkers; stress impacts on antler development; do sanctuaries actually work?; lunar phases and deer movements; is camo a bunch of bullshit?; selling venison; and more.

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0:00.0	This is the meat eater podcast coming at you shirtless severely bugged bitten in my case underwear list.
0:15.0	Let me feed our podcast.
0:18.0	You can't predict anything.
0:20.0	Presented by First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer.
0:27.0	Are coyotes really killing eaten all the deer? Is it as bad as everyone thinks?
0:34.0	No, it's not as bad as their Bay things.
0:37.0	Why does everyone think it's so bad? Is it more fun to think about coyotes killing deer than other shit killing deer?
0:42.0	Yeah, I don't know what it is, but there's something about coyotes and something about wolves that really gets under hunter's skin.
0:50.0	You can show them research. It shows like in Wisconsin, the only Wisconsin about five years ago they wrapped this research.
0:58.0	And the number one killer of fawns, you know, one fawns that basically hit the ground in the first three weeks of life are picked off.
1:06.0	Can I guess buy?
1:08.0	Go ahead. Black bears.
1:09.0	Exactly. Exactly.
1:11.0	It's anywhere from 10 to 25% of those fawns that are being picked off by black bears. And a few guys will complain about it.
1:20.0	But for the most part, they'll always default to the coyote.
1:23.0	And you look at the numbers on this particular study. And that's probably a pretty representative study because they have all the major predators in this area.
1:30.0	There's 6% of the kills were definitely tied to coyotes, 6%. And black bears though, they had at least 10% but it was more likely close to 25%.
1:41.0	Because as soon as you got it about a month out of the fawning season, because part of that 25% is these unknown.
1:48.0	They weren't quite sure what got it because everything was basically cleaned up.
1:52.0	Yeah, gone.
1:53.0	But as soon as it got out of that first month, this was typically when the black bears are hitting them, that just dropped right off.
2:01.0	Those unidentifies dropped right off.
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