Hey folks, Randy Newberg here. Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Hunt Talk Radio.

Today I am sitting in beautiful Boseman, Montana and I don't know how I convince this person to take such a beautiful morning and spend it in front of a microphone rather than with fly rod and hand.

But Mark Z. Cat is here with me and I'm very grateful that he did decide to take the invitation. Mark, thanks for being here.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

And those of you who don't know Mark, I think a lot of you probably do. He owns Z. Cat Creative. He started that founded that.

I think he started that because the greatest, the coolest man in the world, the Dosekies guy. I think you turned down that role for that commercial where something with all your world traveling.

And that probably would have been a good gig that I would have turned that down. The offer came across my plan.

Well, Mark is, I mean, he's traveled a lot, done a lot of things and Mark and I living in the same town, having a lot of the same groups we work with.

Our paths cross a lot. We get to share a lot of hunting stories and I've told audience when we started this podcast a year ago that at times I wanted to have some of the best al-conners they may have never heard of.

And I don't know if you meet the may have never heard of because a lot of people know you. But I think you meet the one of the best al-conners category and we're going to get into that.

But I don't want you to give any of your secret spots, Mark, because I know, well, you probably could because I, I can't say I know exactly where you hunt.

But I see some of the places you take pictures and I'm not going there anyhow.

I think that's one of the nice parts is that a lot of people aren't venturing to those places at the times that we do.

But I appreciate the compliment as one of the best al-conners. I think I might be in the top 100 in our county.

There's a lot of really great al-conners that probably people haven't heard of around here and a lot of people that I look up to.

So yeah, it's a wonderful compliment one that, you know, I don't think I have achieved at this point, but it's something that I'm thankful for for sure.

Well, it's funny you say that because with doing our TV show and I know our show probably the al-conners we do probably are a little bit different than what you see on a lot of the other TV shows.

And people will come up to me and say, man, I don't know how you do that. That looks pretty extreme.

And I tell them, I said, you know, I would be in the lower half of badass al-conners just in my hometown.

And they look at me like, what? And I'm like, yeah, I'm 51 years old. I drive a desk for a living.

And if you knew the guys in my hometown, what they do, where they go and how they kill out, I don't even want to think about where they go.

And people look at me like, holy crap. But we are lucky to live here from this standpoint of where we live.

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