Hey folks, Randy Nooburg here. We're ready to bring you another episode of

Hunt Talk Radio, also known as Randy Nooburg Unfiltered. Today I have with me a

guest who I've known for a long time and I guess that's a function of how

long he's been working on endangered threatened and endangered species

issues for the state of Montana and how long I've been suckered into being a

hunter advocate on threatened and endangered species issues. So my guest is

Arnie Dude, I've known Arnie for 20 some years and he worked for Fish

Wildlife and Parks Montana State Agency for what Arnie for 40 years, 25 of

that on threatening endangered species. Well thanks for being here Arnie, we're

gonna for those of you listening, we're gonna get into some discussions of things

that in our Hunt Talk forum, so many of you have asked questions related to

wolves, grizzly bears, sage grouse, and endangered species act because you

hear about it but I would say by and large the complications of those of that

act, the complication of process causes most hunters to just tune out and a lot

of times we get our information and bits and pieces from our buddy. You see that

quite a lot. Yeah whereas the other side has made this a business model and when

I say the other side it's the people who are usually litigating when anything

that to our favor or represents our interest. Yeah I think the Randy one of the

places to start with is to recognize that the endangered species act as it

was written and passed is really a reflection of the values of the people of

the United States and it was overwhelmingly passed in 1972. 1973. 1973.

And it reflects that most people are not about wiping things out and the act when

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