Entropy, Energy & The 4th Frontier: Chris Martenson on DarkHorse

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Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

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🗓️ 22 October 2023

⏱️ 184 minutes

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Bret speaks with Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity on the DarkHorse podcast.

Find Chris on X: https://twitter.com/chrismartenson
Find Chris at Peak Prosperity: https://peakprosperity.com/

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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(04:32) Sponsors
(08:25) Similarities and differences
(14:00) Non linear scientific mind
(26:22) Lahaina fires
(30:30) Owen Benjamin
(34:20) Narrative and metaphor
(51:50) Burning Man
(55:00) Fossil fuels
(01:02:00) Peak Oil
(01:09:45) ROI and time traveling money printer
(01:19:45) First principle thinking and bot attacks
(01:32:30) Rent seeking elite, depopulation and collapse
(01:41:22) The West, breaking coalitions, and false dichotomies
(01:58:30) Colleges
(02:06:40) Fourth Frontier
(02:18:13) Consciousness
(02:27:40) Negative entropy
(02:43:00) Insects and are humans special?
(03:00:00) Wrap up

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0:00.0	anything we've done, like, oh, we have these sustainable wind towers. No, we don't. We have these
0:05.1	positive net entropy devices that are going to just wear down and we're going to have to rebuild them. So they're not
0:10.4	alternative energy. The rebuildables, as Nate Hagen says. It's not that. That's all they are.
0:14.8	Right? So we haven't yet used our big brains to figure out how to fashion something so that it rebuilds itself over time. Right?
0:21.6	That's what nature does.
0:23.2	Everything it does, it's creating pockets of negative entropy. Right? And that's that's the rule. So
0:30.2	so I can tell whatever the trees are up to. The tree is figured out a way to do what it does.
0:35.6	And in 10,000 years, you know, all things not going supernova and some spectacular fashion. They'll be trees here. Right?
0:43.2	It's so we have to start thinking about how we how we create things that are truly regenerative. It begins to
0:48.5	me, Brett. We have to really appreciate and understand energy and how energy actually moves and flows
0:54.7	that we've been given this amazing once in a species bequeathment. Right?
0:58.8	You know, there's there's complicated reasons why we have these things called fossil fuels. Like we have coal. You know,
1:03.3	we have coal because plants develop lignin before the back, the, the, um, sorry, the fungi figured out how to break it down.
1:11.5	It was this awesome period of several, you know, 100 million years or so where, you know, in the competing chemistry of
1:17.3	of life, one branch of life had figured out how to make stuff that nobody had figured out how to eat.
1:22.2	Holy moly. That was all that true.
1:27.6	Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast. I have the distinct pleasure and honor of sitting
1:33.3	this morning with Chris Martensen, who is a good friend of mine. I do not know how what fraction of
1:41.4	our audience on Dark Horse is aware of Chris Martensen, but if you're not aware, this is your lucky day
1:47.3	because Chris is an incredible person. In fact, Chris, you don't know this, but you are, I'm not a religious
1:55.6	person, but you are one of very few things in the universe that makes me wonder if there is a god
2:01.3	because during the madness of COVID, we were granted a kick-ass toxicologist in the form of you
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