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Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Entrepreneurship Is a Spiritual Journey: Josh Trent on the Inner Work That Builds Empires

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Josh Trent

Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 913 Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

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Summary

Most entrepreneurs think they have a marketing problem or a systems problem.

In this conversation of the Embodied Marketing podcast, Emily Hirsh and I pull the curtain back on a deeper truth. Your business is not just a strategy. It is an X-ray of your identity, your emotional patterns, and the unhealed parts of your story that are still running the show.

We go all the way in on what it really means to be an embodied CEO. Not the trending version that says everything should feel effortless, and not the hustle culture version that worships grind at the cost of your soul. The middle way. The one where you tell the truth about your pain, your patterns, and your power, then build your business from there.

If you have ever felt like you did all the right things and still felt stuck, this episode will feel like someone finally turned the lights on in the room you have been sitting in for years.

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In This Episode, We Explore

Entrepreneurship as spiritual initiation

  • What the word entrepreneur really means and why it always involves risk to receive any real reward

  • How my own origin story with a bipolar mother and an absent father wired me for hyper vigilance and achievement

  • The moment in my thirties that became a dark night of the soul and forced me to stop performing and start embodying

You are not broken, you are burdened

  • Why your emotional patterns, beliefs, and environment are written into your biology

  • How Emotional Epigenetics explains why trauma repeats across generations and how trust can be encoded as well

  • The three core bioenergetic burdens that keep entrepreneurs stuck in the same loops, no matter how much they learn

The Wellness Pentagon and your life as a capacitor

  • The five sides of self that must be nourished so your business does not collapse
    Physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial

  • Why money is not separate from your inner work, it is a mirror of it

  • How ignoring one side of the pentagon will eventually drain all of the others

The garden metaphor for self love and leadership

  • Why you are a living garden, and your emotions are both fruit and weeds

  • How resentment, anger, grief and learned helplessness grow like invasive plants if you refuse to look at them

  • What it actually looks like to tend to your inner garden every day without shame and without making your weeds your identity

Parenthood, rite of passage, and the fuel behind your work

  • How becoming a father cracked me open and gave my mission a very different source of energy

  • Why I honestly regret not having children earlier and what that taught me about maturity and responsibility

  • The seventh generation principle and why your healing ripples backward and forward through your lineage

Pain, pride and the frequencies that shape your leadership

  • A simple breakdown of Dr Hawkins' scale of consciousness and why pride is the trap that keeps high achievers stuck

  • Why so many entrepreneurs want to jump straight from shame into love without feeling the emotions in between

  • How to use courage and acceptance as bridges from survival mode into authentic power

Shortcuts, embodiment and the real arc of growth

  • The trap of chasing five-step formulas and why the shortcut always becomes the long cut

  • The three-phase arc I see in every entrepreneur
    gather, apply and embody

  • Why most people gather and then try to skip straight to embodiment, and how that delay shows up as prolonged pain

Social media, distraction and the cost of your attention

  • The honest struggle with phones, notifications and consumption while trying to create meaningful work

  • How to protect your finite decision-making capacity so you can actually build the thing that matters

  • Practical ideas like light phones, computer only social access, and intentional windows for engagement

AI, capacity, and why embodiment will always win

  • How I see AI as a neutral tool that exposes who we really are and what we value

  • The right way to use AI as a capacity amplifier instead of a soul replacement

  • Why leaders who are embodied in their work will rise in an AI-saturated world, and anyone who copies without living it will fade

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, welcome back to the Wellness and Wisdom podcast. Today, I'm sharing a powerful conversation

0:04.4

where I was interviewed on the embodied CEO podcast by my friend, Emily Hirsch. Emily gets to the

0:10.3

real heart of transformation and leadership in this episode. We explore what it means to build a life

0:15.1

in business from wholeness, not from hustle, and also not from strategy alone, but from

0:20.3

identity transformation. I unpacked why

0:22.6

transformation always comes before tactics and the three phases every entrepreneur walks through

0:28.3

and how the garden of our inner world inherently determines the fruit that you grow in your

0:33.2

outer world. This episode is honest. It's pretty rare that I share a podcast, but when they're

0:38.1

really, really juicy and good, where you get to see a different side of me and a different

0:41.8

side of the conversation, then it's worthy of sharing. Like, I believe this one really is

0:46.5

worthy of sharing, especially if you've been feeling stuck between who you were and who you're

0:51.1

becoming and you are a spiritpreneur, you're an entrepreneur that wants to be more

0:55.5

led from their heart, this is a perfect podcast for you. Let's drop in together and remember that

1:00.1

people don't just buy your information. They are buying your energy. They are buying you. And when

1:05.8

your energy comes from truth, everything that you build becomes sacred work. Let's tune in with Emily.

1:14.3

Let's dive in. I would love for you to share a little bit about you to start in wherever

1:18.8

you feel is relevant to dive into your story as an entrepreneur and where you are today.

1:24.4

I love the term entrepreneur because I believe the etymology is risk,

1:28.9

one who takes risk. And I found that nothing in my life, no matter what category, I have to,

1:35.5

I get to take risk if I want to get some type of reward or fruit. So that's like the genesis,

1:42.1

essentially for my whole life. I was born in East County LaMesa, which,

1:46.5

if nobody knows that area, it's like geriatric ward with like the occasional hookup culture.

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