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Today we'll be focusing on entrepreneurs changing the world to drop these value bombs. I brought Anthony Sarandria into EO fire studios.

He is recognized as one of the top customer generators in the world specializing in the financial services space running a team that drove over one million customers in 2020.

Today he runs a profitable portfolio of websites ranging from commerce to content blogs that combined reach millions of buyers every month and drive 4000 inbound calls per day as an affiliate.

He is consistently featured as one of the top under 30 entrepreneurs and was recently featured alongside Snapchat's founder Evan Spiegel as one of the entrepreneurs changing the world.

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Anthony say what's up to fire nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with.

What's up everyone? I believe that becoming successful or wealthy is actually a spiritual or goodwill obligation that you have.

And the reason why I say that because being successful can have a lot of negative connotations people feel like Jeff Bezos is dirty because he's so rich or sales or dirty things like that.

I think you need to create more value consistently in the marketplace in order to become successful.

So therefore I believe it really at the end of the day it's a call it a human goodwill spiritual if you're religious obligation to become successful because it means you're creating value for your employees, your investors, your customers, your vendors and everyone around you.

Otherwise you you by definition cannot become successful unless you're creating a immense amount of value consistently.

And you can create value to a lot of places in this world. I mean, I do believe in the phrase that's you know people that say money can't buy happiness have never been able to give a blank check to a charity or a cause that they truly believe in because man that will make you thrilled and happy.

And today we're talking fire nation about entrepreneurs who are changing the world and as you heard in the introduction Anthony is obviously one of those.

But I want to start off Anthony by talking about the culture of selling in the culture of rejection.

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