Two of my favorite books are the last, I don't know, I guess it's 10 years, 12 years the SNL oral history

ESPN oral history both written by James Andrew Miller. He has a new book out now

about CAA powerhouse it's called. It's on art and top I think of the bestseller list. Talk to us for about 40 minutes.

A lot about the CAA book which I really liked, but he got into ESPAN as well and there's a lot of stuff to

pick through there as well. Good conversation with James Andrew Miller.

When you, the first book you wrote was the Senate book, is that correct?

Correct.

And I apologize. I read the SNL book, loved it,

read the ESPM book, loved it, and just finished this, I blew blew to this book this is right in my

wheelhouse loved it I haven't read that book is that book also in oral history

format or is it not no and you're forgiven I wrote it when I was a baby and, you know, it was not the oral history format.

What is a penalty, when did it first trigger for you when you're doing S&O and you're researching it to say you know what let's let's make this

oral history which has become I think more popular in is such a readable format you know

it's like candy is it because the size of personalities you're dealing with

say in an SL book? You know it's interesting question I love the oral history

format and I think that one of the things that I realized with the you know live from New York

was that you're dealing with these people who were just so unique when you

talk to bill Murray when you talk to tina fay will f, I mean the list goes on and on and on.

I'm sorry, but put Hemingway in front of a keyboard and he won't be able to capture

them in a way that they can reveal themselves to the readers you know and I know there there

are people you know who say sometimes oh well oral history you know the writer is not

making up their you know I'm not making up their, you know, I'm not making up their mind for the reader.

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