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The Heidi St. John Podcast

Engage, Don’t Escape: The Power of Relationships in the Pursuit of Truth with Dr. Jeff Myers

The Heidi St. John Podcast

Heidi St. John

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2022

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

It’s easy to lob bombs at each other over the not-so-imaginary fence lines that social media has expertly constructed, isn’t it? How do we bridge the divide between us in a time when we don’t need to be in the same room to inflict harm on each other?  Dr. Jeff Myers has brilliant insight to share as we talk about the power of relationship and why we must engage, instead of trying to escape the hard conversations. Let’s grapple with the hard things rather than run from opposing points of view. SHOW NOTES


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0:00.0

Well, hey, everyone. This is Heidi St. John. Thanks for tuning in. Today you guys have found me in my

0:04.2

little post Thanksgiving hideaway here at the intersection of faith and culture. Today, I'm going

0:09.1

to air part two of my interview with Dr. Jeff Myers. Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged.

0:22.7

Well, welcome to the show today. I hope you guys had a wonderful Thanksgiving and that you're

0:27.0

having a great holiday weekend with the people that you love. Today, I'm going to air part two of my

0:32.9

interview with Dr. Jeff Myers. Yesterday, we were talking about why it's so important that we

0:37.5

acknowledge that there is such a thing as truth and the fact that the people around Jesus really

0:43.6

did change everything and they changed everything in every spirit of influence from medicine to politics

0:49.2

and they did it with the love of Christ. Today, we're going to come back around to that same topic,

0:54.4

only take it a little bit farther and we're going to grapple with grappling. Why is it so important

0:59.9

that we engage in these conversations and how you can do it? We're going to give you guys some

1:04.1

fun tips for how you can engage people in conversation that is both life giving and truth telling.

1:10.0

Here's part two of my interview with my friend, Dr. Jeff Myers.

1:14.7

My second son was over at our home for dinner the other night. This is how you get your college

1:18.4

kids to come home. You just say dinner, right? This is how you do it. If anybody's wondering, this is

1:23.8

how this is the key. That's the secret sauce. That's the secret sauce. I make dinner and I

1:28.4

text a couple of my kids and say, hey, I've got dinner. If you guys are free, come on over and

1:33.4

so Spencer and I sit around the fire and just chat and it up the other night and you said,

1:37.9

you know what I noticed? I noticed that beauty actually matters. The world is telling us that it

1:43.2

doesn't matter, but he said all the things that have changed history over the decades in the

1:49.1

generations have had an element of beauty to them. So we started talking about different aspects of

1:53.8

beauty here in the Pacific Northwest and architecture and music and and you're right because even though

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