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Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Energy Crisis Part II?

Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Real Vision

Business, Business News, News, Investing

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Surging prices and renewed challenges in the energy sector mean that bonds and stocks "have to do the dirty work." Andreas Steno Larsen, senior editor at Real Vision and the founder of Steno Research, joins Maggie Lake to discuss the major implications of cyclically higher energy prices, why the traditional 60/40 portfolio may not be suited for today's market conditions, and how AI is reshaping the investment landscape.For more access to Andreas’ independent research, there’s a 40% discount exclusively for the Real Vision community using the code RV40 at https://www.realvision.com/steno Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Are we headed for part two of the energy crisis? Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Real Vision

0:11.4

Daily Briefing with me today is Andreas Stinnell Larson, Real Vision's my colleague of course

0:17.3

at Real Vision, our market editor and founder of Stinnell Research. Hey Andreas, great

0:21.1

to kick off the week with you. Hi Maggie, great to see you. And everyone, of course, our

0:26.0

keynote viewer is going to know Andreas is rocking his slightly new look, which we love.

0:31.6

Those of you who are listening on audio, you'll catch up. You'll see it. So Andreas,

0:35.6

we had US stocks just closed a little bit of a lackluster session. It looks like actually,

0:43.8

you know what? I always like to check at the end and they're a little bit better than

0:48.8

there were just a few minutes ago. Looks like they were all in the red, but they kind

0:52.2

of turned around and managed to sort of, for the NASDAQ, again, of a half a percent. It

0:56.5

was down just a few minutes ago. The Russell was the only one that was, that was in the green.

1:01.6

So a little bit of a late buying coming in here, but it seemed like the real action was

1:06.6

once again with bonds, yields moving higher, 10 year yields at one point, a 4.54% high

1:14.2

since 2007. What's your take on the action that we're seeing in bonds?

1:20.8

I mean, last week we had a whole series of central bank messages, basically all agreeing

1:30.1

that we are very, very close to a peak in policy rates. And that message was delivered amidst

1:38.7

what I call a cyclical upswing in everything related to production and amidst a clear rally

1:46.7

in energy prices. And when central banks communicate a pause while everything is smoking

1:55.3

hot in commodity land, it is the perfect cocktail for a so-called curve steeper in markets.

2:03.6

And the reason is that the market, market simply has to do the dirty work when central banks

2:08.4

are not willing to do it. And therefore, right now, right about everyone is fleeing the

2:15.0

ship in terms of their bond ownership. It's been a clear consensus over the course of the

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