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The Rich Roll Podcast

Endurance Poet Tommy Rivs Rages On: Surviving Cancer, The Gift of Pain & The Healing Power of Gratitude

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.713.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2021

⏱️ 139 minutes

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Summary

At any moment, your could life could turn upside down. When tragedy strikes, what do you do? How you navigate events beyond your control reveals character. And character is something today’s guest possesses in abundance. Faced with a rare form of deadly cancer, Tommy Rivers Puzey—affectionately revered across the world as ‘Tommy Rivs’—refused pity. Instead, he doubled down on gratitude. He chose to learn from his suffering, expand his capacity to love, and more than anything, see the pain he endured as a teacher. A poet of endurance and philosopher of the human spirit, Tommy is a highly credentialed elite marathoner and ultrarunner with many victories and accolades to his name. He’s also an anthropologist, linguist, doctorate of physical therapy, and massage therapist who has worked with some of the best endurance athletes in the world. But more than anything, he’s a man who is universally beloved for his kindness, generosity, and soulful grace. In the summer of 2020, Tommy fell gravely ill with an extremely rare and advanced form of lung cancer that very nearly killed him—and most likely would have killed anyone else. But Rivs isn’t just anyone. Rivs is Rivs. He survived. Today Tommy shares his potent story, beautiful perspective, and copious wisdom in a beautifully vulnerable and heart-centered conversation for the ages. Without mincing words, this is an extremely real conversation about what it’s like to approach death. It’s soulful, at times emotional, and overall, a celebration of the human spirit in all its boundlessness. It’s a reminder that life itself is an absolute miracle. And it’s a powerful testament that gratitude, positivity, service, community, and love—mostly love—are what life is all about. To read more click here. You can also watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Note: This conversation was recorded on October 13th, 2021, and thus prior to Tommy’s most recent and perhaps most courageous and astonishing endurance feat to date. A mere year from having to relearn how to even walk, Tommy completed the NYC marathon. It took him over nine agonizing hours—7 hours longer than his 2:18 PR—but that nine hours was globally celebrated all over the world, including a must-read profile in the New York Times entitled, Cancer Nearly Took His Life. But the New York Marathon Awaited. Tommy is an exemplary human. A quiet and introspective mentor to many, he’s someone I aspire to emulate, a man who comports himself with an admirable degree of dignity, grace, humility, and generosity of spirit. It’s an honor to help share his powerful and inspiring story. Peace + Plants, Rich

Transcript

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0:00.0

I remember being very aware that it was serious and anytime you have something that's going

0:06.6

on with your respiratory system, you really quickly lose your ego.

0:10.2

I mean, there's not much bartering and you can't really tough your way through that.

0:14.5

You take away somebody's oxygen and it's just a matter of minutes and you're begging for

0:19.4

something, anything to save you.

0:21.3

You become desperate.

0:22.9

I guess the key is to not waste that suffering.

0:25.7

When it comes, see it as an opportunity to open our eyes and to be able to really value

0:32.0

a normal day, you know, just realizing how incredible that is.

0:36.0

And the tragedy is that we don't recognize it until after the fact, but you have the ability

0:41.9

as a human being to positively or negatively affect the people around you based off of

0:48.1

the way that you choose to interact, you know.

0:51.3

And our purpose for being here is to serve each other, to try to make the life of another

0:56.6

individual easier.

0:58.7

There is no idealistic future, you know, where it's just going to all be right and we're

1:02.5

just going to be happy.

1:03.7

We're not a victim of it.

1:05.0

It doesn't just happen to us.

1:06.7

It's happening all the time and it's our ability to see it and recognize it.

1:24.4

Hey, everybody.

1:25.4

Welcome to the podcast.

1:26.8

My guest today is Tommy Rivers Pusy or as he is known to his friends, to his family

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