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Astonishing Legends

End of Life

Astonishing Legends

Scott Philbrook

History, Society & Culture

4.69.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2023

⏱️ 121 minutes

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Summary

Like so many stories and people that come our way, this is another one that seemed to be put in our path by some grander force for a higher purpose. Recently, Scott and his wife Emily were out at dinner and struck up a conversation with the stranger sitting next to them, Lauren Hopper, who told them she worked as an end-of-life doula. While many of us have heard of a Birth Doula, someone who provides advice, emotional support, and physical comfort to mothers during childbirth, Lauren’s job takes place at the opposite end of life’s journey. She gives hope and guidance to those about to pass away and their loved ones in their grief. The conversation between the three was profound, fascinating, and reassuring to such a degree that we felt it needed to be shared, and the sooner, the better. While most of us will never experience the things we talk about on this show, there is one absolute certainty in that every one of us will pass eventually, and if you’re of a certain age, you’ll be dealing with the imminent departure of your parents or friends. While you may not agree with Lauren’s beliefs or assessment of her experiences, we must all admit that we won’t know for sure until our end comes. Please join us, Lauren, and our friend Rich Hatem for a discussion on the essential question in life, what happens after we die? The easiest answer is to believe that nothing happens, but why not entertain the notion that something ineffably wonderful does, that no one ever really dies?

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0:00.0

If you are feeling suicidal, thinking about hurting yourself or concern that someone you know,

0:04.2

maybe suicidal or in danger of hurting themselves, call or text the new nationwide

0:08.2

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0:14.2

Help is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

0:22.5

Estonishing legends, would like to thank Squarespace, Mint Mobile, Peloton, Wildgrain,

0:27.9

our contributors at patreon.com and you, our listeners, for making tonight's show possible.

0:35.2

Estonishing legends has been for over eight years now a show about the unknown,

0:40.1

cryptids, UFOs, disappearances and yes ghosts. In fact, we talk about ghosts so much that

0:47.1

sometimes we might forget what a ghost represents. Death. If you listen to the show,

0:52.4

well then you probably do that because you're fascinated with the unknown, right? The mysteries,

0:56.4

the unsolvable. But how much thought have you given to death? And more specifically, your death.

1:03.1

Of course, some folks are just naturally morbid like our good friend Miranda Merrick,

1:06.8

the host of the Midnight Library. And there are others who probably think about death and even their

1:12.0

own a lot. But how many of us think about our own deaths and what they will be like? Sure,

1:17.8

we all do that when the time is nigh. But not much earlier in most cases. So you have to ask yourself,

1:24.6

are you afraid of your own mortality? Unfortunately, we don't get to choose much about our deaths.

1:30.1

The time, place and circumstances are all choices that converge on us without our consent 99%

1:35.6

of the time. But what is the quality of the experience like? Can you do something about that?

1:42.6

Join us tonight to meet someone who trades in making the dying as comfortable as they can be

1:47.5

when their time comes. And in this case, not just physically, but spiritually and emotionally.

1:52.8

An end of life, doula.

2:10.1

Welcome back to Estonishing Legends. I'm Horace Burgess, and this is Skyfield Rock.

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