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Scamfluencers

ENCORE: The Pop Star and the Power Broker: Part 2 | 172

Scamfluencers

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.17K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

As Erika Jayne’s pop star career blossoms, questions continue to mount about her husband Tom Girardi’s finances and his legal practice. His clients have been waiting in limbo to receive the settlement money owed to them, and they’re not the only ones getting angry with Tom. In the finale to this two-part series, Tom’s own legal woes overshadow his storied career. The revelations from multiple lawsuits and investigations will upend his reputation, his marriage, and even his freedom.

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0:00.0

Hey, scamfluensers fans, Sachi here. If you live for the outrageous stories and unbelievable

0:04.5

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0:09.1

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0:14.8

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0:20.1

This is the second episode of a two-part series.

0:23.1

I don't care how much Real Housewives you've watched, you're going to be lost if you

0:26.8

don't go back and listen to Part 1.

0:34.7

Sachi, if you had any type of political influence, how would you use that to your advantage?

0:41.6

I mean, I feel like you know I would only use it for evil.

0:45.1

Well, I actually don't know how this would work, but I think the only, like, kind of illegal thing I would want would be an unlimited tap card for when I take the bus or subway,

0:55.9

just so I never have to think about it. Are you a turnstile jumper? Well, if I could, I would,

1:00.5

but we can't jump those in Toronto. It's like those doors. Oh yeah, they're like bricks. I forgot.

1:04.6

I could imagine you suddenly becoming very spry and jumping over a turn style, surprising me.

1:11.3

Well, as we discussed last episode, Tom Girardi started his career off emulating his do-gooder hero, Perry Mason.

1:18.7

But as he gained success, he also gained a lot of power and political influence.

1:24.1

Power and influence that he didn't exactly use for good.

1:31.6

Yeah. power and influence that he didn't exactly use for good. It's 2018, and a lawyer named Jay Edelson is at a Morton Steakhouse in Los Angeles.

1:37.9

He's in his 40s with a bit of a baby face, which he sometimes covers up with trendy glasses and stubble.

1:44.0

He's flown here from Chicago for a meeting with one of his heroes, Tom Gerardi,

1:48.7

a powerhouse in the legal field and an inspiration to Jay.

1:52.7

But after Jay gets seated, he starts feeling like something is off with Tom.

1:57.4

We actually talked to Jay for this episode, and here's how he described this moment.

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