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ENCORE: The Memory Maker Part 1 | 159

Scamfluencers

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.17K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

We’ll be back in two weeks with all-new Scamfluencers episodes. In the meantime, we’re returning to one of our favorites. 

After surviving a difficult childhood, Teal Swan starts a family and reinvents herself as a spiritual leader for the Internet age. She gains a huge following by talking openly about a wide-range of topics, including taboo mental health issues. In her videos, she’s warm, candid, and relatable. But her unconventional approach may have some dark consequences. 

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0:00.0

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0:02.2

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0:16.1

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0:20.2

Hi, guys. We'll be back in two weeks with all new episodes that we're really excited

0:24.5

about. But in the meantime, we're returning to one of our favorite two-part episodes about

0:29.4

a spiritual influencer gone wild. That's right. This is the story of Teal Swan, a wellness

0:35.6

guru perfectly suited for the internet age.

0:38.6

Teal amassed millions of followers under the guise of healing.

0:42.4

But not everyone thinks what she's doing is healthy.

0:45.2

She's been accused of making up an outrageous origin story featuring satanic rituals and abuse

0:50.7

and of emotionally and financially manipulating her followers.

0:55.1

Some people even think she's running a cult.

0:58.3

Oh, a real piece of work.

1:00.4

And speaking of questionable spiritual leaders, before we get into today's episode,

1:04.5

we have to tell you about Wondry's new series, Don't Cross Cat.

1:08.6

Don't Cross Cat unveils an even more sinister tale of how social media influence

1:13.7

can be weaponized. Like Teal's Swan story, it begins with charming promises of transformation.

1:19.9

But unlike Teal's spiritual teachings, Kat Torres's web of deception spirals into something far more

1:26.5

criminal. When a young woman named Desiree vanishes

1:29.3

without a trace, her best friend launches a desperate search to find her. The trail leads to Kat Torres,

1:35.5

a charismatic influencer with millions of followers. Cat is a self-proclaimed witch, who says she has

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