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🗓️ 8 August 2025
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Greg Jenner is joined in twelfth-century England by Dr Gabrielle Storey and comedian Cariad Lloyd to learn all about Empress Matilda and the medieval civil war known as the Anarchy. A granddaughter of William the Conqueror, Matilda was born into England’s new Norman royal family. As a young girl she was used as a dynastic pawn by her father and sent to Germany to marry the Holy Roman Emperor. Here she was crowned empress and trained to rule. When her younger brother died, followed by her husband, Matilda returned to England to take her place as her father’s heir. But after her father’s death she was beaten to the throne by her cousin Stephen, and so began the medieval civil war known as the Anarchy. Although Matilda ultimately lost, her son, Henry, was made Stephen’s heir, and he went on to rule with support and advice from his royal mother. So who was the real winner? This episode traces Matilda’s dramatic life from daughter of a king to empress of Germany to queen-in-waiting of England. Along the way, we ask whether medieval sexism prevented her from taking the throne, and look at the ways a woman could rule in twelfth-century Europe.
If you’re a fan of fearsome queens, violent family feuds and medieval royal drama, you’ll love our episode on Empress Matilda.
If you want more medieval queens with Dr Gabrielle Storey, check out our episode on Eleanor of Aquitaine. For more from Cariad Lloyd, listen to our episodes on Agrippina the Younger, Mary Wollstonecraft, and the Arts and Crafts Movement. And for more English royal feuds, there’s our episode on the Causes of the British Civil Wars.
You’re Dead To Me is the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Every episode, Greg Jenner brings together the best names in history and comedy to learn and laugh about the past.
Hosted by: Greg Jenner Research by: Clara Chamberlain Written by: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow, Emma Nagouse, and Greg Jenner Produced by: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow and Greg Jenner Audio Producer: Steve Hankey Production Coordinator: Ben Hollands Senior Producer: Emma Nagouse Executive Editor: Philip Sellars
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| 0:20.8 | Hello, and welcome to You're Dead to Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously. |
| 0:26.0 | My name is Greg Jenner. I'm a public historian author and broadcaster. And today we are |
| 0:29.9 | moseying back to medieval England and throwing fists in the fiercest of family feuds as we |
| 0:34.4 | learn all about Empress Matilda and the Anarchy. And joining our royal court |
| 0:38.4 | are two very special guests in History Corner. She's a historian of monarchy and sexuality, |
| 0:43.7 | specialising in medieval history. She's the author of Beringaria of Navarre, Queen of England and |
| 0:48.6 | Lord of Lomont. And you'll remember her from our episode on Eleanor of Akitaine. It's Dr Gabrielle's story. |
| 0:53.6 | Welcome back, Gabby. |
| 0:54.7 | Great, thanks for having me back. |
| 0:56.2 | And in Comedy Corner, she's a multi-talented comedian, actor-writer. You'll know her from the TV panel show. She's an author. Her new children's book, Where Does She Go? It's a lovely analysis of grief for kids. It's beautiful. Plus she has a career as a Jane Austen Improv Whiz in the hilarious ostentatious improv show. |
| 0:55.0 | She's a busy woman and you'll definitely remember her from our episodes of your dead to me, including Georgian courtship and the arts and crafts movement. It's the wonderful Carriad Lloyd. Welcome back Carriad. Ahoy there, Sirah, as they said, in medieval times, yes? Good morrow upon the yes |
| 1:27.7 | Gabby's nodding like |
| 1:30.5 | yeah yeah |
| 1:31.2 | absolutely |
| 1:32.7 | that's your classic |
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