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The Brian Lehrer Show

Employers, Stop Ghosting Me!

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Bryan, Daily News, Media, New, Nyc, Public, York, News, Lerer, Politics, Wnyc, Npr, Arts, News Commentary, Radio

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Franklin Schneider, writer based in New York City, discusses his recent piece in The Atlantic, "When Did the Job Market Get So Rude?"

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. A lot of people looking for work right now say the same thing. It's hard. It's outright dispiriting. And the writer Franklin Schneider

0:22.9

realized just how low the bar has fallen for employers dealing with job applicants when he felt

0:30.1

oddly grateful to receive a rejection email, not even a personal one, just a form letter,

0:35.9

but he was grateful for the fact that someone bothered to send even that.

0:40.3

In his new piece for the Atlantic, Franklin argues that norms around courtesy in the job market have eroded to the point where both sides, employers and applicants,

0:50.9

are ghosting each other, avoiding each other, and increasingly expecting the worst from

0:55.9

each other. He argues the issue reaches into questions of power and technology and even the

1:01.5

sense that the social contract around work, as people have known it, has started to come apart.

1:06.8

So let's talk about the job market now, including employer and applicant, ghosting, and humanity.

1:12.5

We'll invite your stories to. Franklin Schneider joins us now. His piece in The Atlantic is titled, When Did the Job Market Get So Rude?

1:20.3

Hi, Franklin. Welcome to WNYC.

1:23.0

Thanks for having me on, Brian.

1:24.8

And listeners, yes, you are invited. If you've been in the job market

1:27.7

recently, applying, interviewing, waiting to hear back, what has that experience been like?

1:33.2

Have you been ghosted? Have you sent back test work maybe and never heard back? Or surprised by

1:38.9

how employers handled the process? And for that matter, if you've been on the hiring side,

1:43.8

what pressures

1:44.4

shape how you communicate with candidates and what your expectations are of them.

1:51.1

212-433, WNYC for Franklin Schneider, 212, 433, 9692, call or text. So you open the piece with the admission that you felt almost relieved to get a form,

2:05.4

rejection, email.

2:07.2

Why the sense of relief?

2:09.1

Did we lose Franklin?

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